[Micro-debate]The presence of Blue Shells in Mario Kart games is justified
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Blue shells are Mario Kart items. They are blue in color and they will fly to the first place driver and flip them over, causing them to often lose first place if so. Blue shells can spin out second places and/or other drivers if they are really close to 1st place.
There are entire forums about why Blue shells should not be allowed. Many Mario Kart races are ruined because of one single shell on the last lap.
I, User, will argue that Blue Shells have the right to exist and should remain existent.
You, whoever you are, will argue that Blue shells should be removed from the game.
We can use Mario Kart games as Canon, especially MK8/NX since they are the most recent Mario Kart games and it is my most experienced Mario Kart game(3 stars every 150cc cup, 1 star every 200cc cups). We could, however, use other games, and they are allowed.
Just to catch on the trend, I will use the Micro-debate format. 2500 characters as the limit and 4 sources at most.
Everything is justified, literally. The question is if the justification is fair or not.
“With Mario Kart 64, we wanted to have the same thing where everyone was in it until the end, but some of the processing problems occurred that didn’t allow us to do that. And what I mean by that is once you’re in a middle of a race you’ll get that natural separation.[1]
- Mario Kart does Power Creeping through the Blue Shell
- Power Creeping is bad and unfair
- Because so, the Blue shell should not exist.
- Mario Kart is made so that Luck exists on top of skill. It is not serious.
- Items negate the possibility for Mario Kart being purposefully fair. If you are removing the Blue shell the game won't be any less unfair.
Pro's entire justification for a blatantly unfair and ridiculous game element is that the game is supposed to be ridiculously unfair.
If you would observe the entirety of Pro's R2 and most of Pro's R1, the focus is on the game being entitled to be unfair and that because they brought in the mushroom and horn, it's all okay now.
to give or to be a good reason for
Show or prove to be right or reasonable.
Argument: Con's argument of game fairness, particularly in the round 2 argument that by luck, alone, 2nd place could win. Game fairness s a fundamental. While luck can and does pla a part n all games, skill ought to be the deciding factor in game outcome. Point to Con
Sourcing: tie
S&G tie
Conduct:Pro used a Con comment outside the debate as an argument. No argument outside of debate, other than sources, ought to be entertained. Point to Con
To start, I nearly tied arguments. Had I done that, I would give con the conduct point for pro's unsportsmanlike out of context quotation. Con could love the Blue Shell, and in the confines of this debate still advocate against them.
So pro proves there was a reason (to make it less about luck in the early race). Con casts doubt on the soundless of that reason, as it seems to harm certain playstyles and penalize skill in favor of luck. Both seem to agree they've had to engage in powercreep as a result, which con did a very good job using to imply that the continued presence of the Blue Shells is not reasonable.
Of course the definitions should have been in the description or pro's R1, them coming up in con's closing were not ideal. This is most of why I considered tying arguments.
The final decision was made looking at the resolution. The introduction of them seems quite justified, but the current and continued presence seems dubious in light of the arguments presented.
Funny how the debate 2020 is literally represented by a blue shell. Kinda represents how chaotic, miserable and unpredictable our world it right now.
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FYI: previous post was my 10 yr old nephew
I think the blue ball is a fair thing especially for Mario cart I mean if you are last and you get a blue ball it will get you a huge boost. Power ups are the big thing in Mario cart it would just be another race game. I also think that the blue ball is fair because you would not want your friend beating you by 2 laps.
Then you and I agree but 'ok' doesn't mean 'good'.
What I mean is that it is OK to exist but it is mot to be made fair.
Everything is justified, literally. The question is if the justification is fair or not.
No, It is not fair. Changing the word to "fair" would not be fair for me. Blue shell is useful in places different than being fair.
Change the word 'justified' to 'fair'.
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yes . . . I am finally holding a controversial position !