Established Worker Cooperatives(worker owned businesses) are Better than Established Traditional Businesses, as of now.
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After 6 votes and with 24 points ahead, the winner is...
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I will be arguing that worker cooperatives are better than traditional firms, my opponent will argue that traditional businesses are better than cooperatives. Also, I will not be arguing for a worker cooperative economy, just that businesses that are worker owned out perform traditional firms. Finally, we will be talking about businesses that currently exist. The BOP is shared.
DEFINITIONS
Established-Firms already in existence.
Better-of a more excellent or effective type or quality.
RULES
No K-ing the resolution
I'M NOT A MARKET SOCIALIST, I'M JUST SIDING WITH THEM ON THIS FOR THIS DEBATE.
“Pérotin cites research studies from Italy, the US, Spain, France, and Uruguay, which all indicate that, on the whole, worker-owned cooperatives tend to be slightly larger than conventional firms.”[SOURCE]
For a specific example, Mondragon is a Spanish worker cooperative that generates €12.110 billion in revenue. It has 74,335 employees.[SOURCE]
The data is very clear here.
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Also, my opponent seems to think coops hire less people, but they have an average of 21 employees in France[SOURCE], compare this to the average where almost all french companies have between 0-9 employees.[SOURCE]
Concession.
Concession
Con Conceded.
Con ceded.
Argument: over the full course of the debate, Pro sustained a better argument, but Con's first round was convincing, too. However, as Pro's was sustained, Pro wins the points. Con conceded.
Sourcing: Pro had clearly better sourcing, although one souce showing a graph comparing Coop and normal firm size, which showed favorable numbers for coops, they were all in Europe [when the largest firms are n the US], and the graph compare4d Coops to "All Firms." Did not inclde coops? The graph is poorly identified. Con had no sourcing at all, and admitted it. points to Pro
S&G: Tie
Conduct. Con conceded. Point to Pro
Concession.
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Interesting that one of Pro's sources, Democracy at Work Institute speaks to greater advantage for people of color in coops, but the featured picture next to that very comment shows a group of whites. ???
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HEY! Thanks for accepting RM, I was worried Eric T was gonna scoop it up and ruin it. Good luck to you in these coming rounds.
I disagree. If a worker wants to own their own business, they have some choices to achieve this goal. They can either buy stock, or can start a business up from scratch. If starting up a business was easy, everyone would do it.
here is a forum thread on this.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3924-worker-owned-companies