Obama was a much better president than Trump
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After 5 votes and with 34 points ahead, the winner is...
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Obama was a much more competent president than Trump. Trumps presidency is a failure in comparison to Obama by all metrics.
“the legislation continues President Trump’s rebuilding of our military, authorizing significant investment in vital equipment for our forces, including:
- F-35, F/A-18, and F-15EX combat aircraft
- UH-60M Blackhawks, AH-64 Apaches, MH-47G Chinooks, CH-53K King Stallions
- Abrams tanks and Stryker combat vehicles
- Virginia-class submarines, Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, a guided missile frigate, amphibious ships, and more.” [1]
“Under President Trump’s leadership, Congress passed historic tax cuts and relief for hard-working Americans. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act:
- Is the first major tax reform signed in 30 years.
- Provided tax relief for 82% of middle-class families.
- Doubled the Child Tax Credit proving an additional $1,000 per child in tax relief for working parents.
- Nearly doubled the standard deduction, a change that simplified the tax filing process for millions of Americans.
- Cut taxes for small business by 20%, providing $415 billion in tax relief for small business owners.
- Alleviated the tax burden on over 500 companies. who used those savings to fund bonuses, wage increases for 4.8 million workers.
- Spurred new investments into the American economy, after it was passed businesses invested $482 billion into new American projects.
- Repealed Obamacare’s burdensome individual mandate.
- Made U.S. companies competitive on the world stage, lowering the corporate tax rate from one of the highest in the industrialized world (35%) to 21%. “ [2]
Full forfeit
Argument: Pro's total argument for Obama's claimed presidential superiority was entirely couched in a criticism for Trump. An argument FOR a proposal must have positive argument FOR that proposal with relevant commentary and supporting sources FOR the proposal, which is not met by an argument AGAiNST something other than the proposal. Pro presented absolutely no argument FOR Obama. Con argued positive accomplishment points by Trump, refuting the Pro claim of metrtcs all in Obama's favor. points to Con.
Sources: Pro offered no sources. Con offered relevant sources in support of his contention against the proposal. points to Con.
S&G: AS Con had greater opportunity to fail in this regard, and did not, than did Pro, who forfeited three rounds, point to Con.
Conduct: Pro fully forfeited 3 rounds. Point to Con by full fofeiture
Ful Forfeit
FF. The instigator did not give any clear reasons of his own topic.
I think this is an easy win for you.
I wouldn't be so sure. Around 10% of our budget goes towards the mere interest on our debt. We must pay off the debt before its too late. I figured out a great efficient way to get this done.
I don't think that's happening anytime soon.
Because I'm worried that if the US debt grows too big (I don't see it slowing down anytime soon) then the US would have to sell ourselves to a different country, which would probably be China. It's how the Scots lost their sovereignty to England; they got into debt too much.
Why do you care so much about the national debt?
Obama added $10 trillion onto our debt, but Trump added debt too. It's why I'm voting for Joe Jorgenson.
I think this is truism.