Resolved: Truisms, despite adding no constructive value to their discussions, are still worth mentioning within said discussions
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I have seen this topic on a Chinese debating show called "I Can I BB" and find this intriguing. Both sides are full of fallacies but I enjoyed analyzing it nonetheless. Now, to DART, I support that truisms are still worth mentioning even if they add no constructive value to the arguments. Truisms should still be stated even if it is common sense to all sides, Introducing no new ideas to any.
Truism: A self-evident statement, a statement that is always true, common sense.
Constructive value: The degree in which said idea/thing keeps the discussion alive. especially in terms of the addition of new ideas.
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- A is true
- B is true
- C is supported by A and B and only A and B
- Because so, C is true.
- A: A jog of 1000 meters begins with a single step.
- B: Steps are usually made by feet.
- C: (Supported by A and B) Thus, a 1km jog would most likely begin on foot.
- I think all the masses who have even the littlest bravery that motivated them to read a topic like this would know that the 3rd one is true.
- A: A 1km jog would most likely begin on foot
- B: hands aren't feet
- C: Thus, a 1km jog would most likely not begin on hands
- A: A 1km jog would most likely not begin on hands
- B: A piano is most likely to be played by hands
- C: Thus, the thing you use to jog kilometers would most likely not be the thing you play piano with
- A: The earth looks flat
- B: The earth pictures can be photoshopped
- C: The governments could commit in conspiracy
- D: Thus, it is possible that our earth is Flat.
Pro is being nonsensical and contradictory. He includes extra truisms and provides no necessity to actually mention them in said discussions, and directly violates the core idea of the truism itself. His truism is the famous saying "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step", which is definitively a truism, but is also symbolic. Parents may say this to help encourage their children to play piano (journey of playing the piano begins with playing a single key), but it is completely unnecessary to say that "Of course, the journey of the thousand miles is translated into a thousand notes, and the first mile is the first step, right son?" As you can see the parent's original wisdom is starting to come into stupidity and the children feels like they are treated as stupid.
A: A jog of 1000 miles begins with a single step(TRUISM, TRUE)B: The sentence above should be interpreted by symbolism instead of literally(NON-PROVEN)
1. Pro is contradicting himself here, I get that even necessary truisms have the right place to say, but he has not proved the unnecessary truisms are worth it in the first place. If even mentioning "The Chinese saying 'thousand miles begins with single steps' is an Idiom and ought to be interpreted symbolically most of the time".
- Q: Why is Trump a bad president?
- A: Because he is a president.
- Trump is the president.
- Bad things are usually what people resent.
- People who do bad things more than good things are bad people.
- A bad job at the job will consider one a bad person at the job.
- Bad policies are bad when comes to political executive positions.
- Trump had bad policies(supported by sources).
- Trump is bad at being a president.
- Trump is a bad president.
but in the end, proverbs are still necessary (constructive) truisms, and unnecessary truisms make you look stupid and hamper your ideals, as pro himself displays in round one.
Remember voters, Pro has to support Truisms that are UNCONSTRUCTIVE to the topic.