Instigator / Pro
4
1478
rating
1
debates
0.0%
won
Topic
#2269

Presentism is true. Meaning, only the present is real and non-abstract.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
1

After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

seldiora
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1417
rating
158
debates
32.59%
won
Description

I shall be arguing for presentism. I shall define it as the view in which the only reality that exists now is present reality when it comes to non-abstract or non-imaginary existence. The present moment is all that is concrete.

In other words, I shall be saying that current existence is all that is concrete and non-abstract. The present is the current and the current is the current. Current is opposed to general. Things exist generally only in the abstract or in our imagination ... because our abstractions and imagination is only present in our brains now. There is no non-abstract real, non-imaginary or concrete existence that is non-current or non-present.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro decided in R1 to hide his point, doing a really lengthy complaint about disliking some author for how they named a book. Some nuggets tied to the resolution were deeply buried in there, but weakened by his argument structure.

Con used the passage of time related to observable phenomena, and cause and effect, to prove that the past must be real. This leaves their existence having measurable impacts, rather than being just imaginary. This implied (and was followed up in R2) that the present we believe we experience, is actually past stimuli rather than present reality. As much as this is a weird rabbit hole of thinking, it ultimately shakes confidence in pro's claims, thereby denying him positive affirmation of the resolution.