Instigator / Pro
8
1417
rating
158
debates
32.59%
won
Topic

9spaceking would definitely beat seldiora in a debate.

Status
Finished

All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.

Arguments points
0
6
Sources points
4
4
Spelling and grammar points
2
2
Conduct points
2
2

With 2 votes and 6 points ahead, the winner is ...

BearMan
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Publication date
Last update date
Category
Miscellaneous
Time for argument
Two days
Voting system
Open voting
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Four points
Rating mode
Rated
Characters per argument
10,000
Contender / Con
14
1626
rating
14
debates
100.0%
won
Description
~ 393 / 5,000

9spaceking: https://www.debate.org/9spaceking
seldiora: https://www.debateart.com/participants/seldiora

I am arguing that if these two users debate on an agreed topic, then 9spaceking would definitely win, without a shadow of doubt. This would be an unrated debate as these two users have the same IP address. Ignore the fact that these two are the same person, they are from different times.

Added:
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better spelling and grammar
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro declares at length: "9sk will win beyond the shadow of a doubt."
The problem is that con casts some doubt on it, by listing different ways the time paradox might favor the future iteration. However, pro defends that the main ones of those would prevent anything from occurring.

A weakness to pro's defenses of capitalized by con, in that con raised the problem of Mafia players taking the game too literal, this forcing the debate to tie. It is definitely not certain that no one will vote for any reason, but it is intuitively a reasonable possibility.

With the resolution calling for "definitely," the slight doubt is enough to tip it against pro. Without that, this would be closer to the tied range, maybe even outright favoring pro.

Added:
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better spelling and grammar
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro1: 9spaceking is better at skill thus he will win!
Con1: There are scenarios that prevent 9spaceking from winning
Pro2-3: You cannot prove that 9spaceking will lose or even tie
Con2-3: Neither can you prove otherwise.

Pro proved that it is probable that 9spaceking will win, but ignored that this resolution asks for 100 assuredness. Con brought this up and this leads it to victory.