It is preferable for a beautiful woman to go after a career than going after a man
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beautiful: having beauty; possessing qualities that give great pleasure or satisfaction to see, hear, think about, etc.; delighting the senses or mind: (in this case, physical beauty)
"go after": to exert effort to achieve (gain a job, or gain a partner in life)
career: an occupation/profession undertaken for a significant period of a person's life and with opportunities for progress.
Preferable: Would be more beneficial than negatives, both sides considered.
Assume the woman is heterosexual. Con cannot win by saying "neither way is good", it is either one or the other.
- Health Care Insurance
- Disability Insurance
- Life Insurance
- Retirement / Pension Plans
- Flexible Compensation
- Paid Leave
Unless Con can prove the man would be willing to give this much, then con loses.
If you chase after a man, you'll have to pressure him to pay for your meals, and even then you'll exhaust time and effort on an uncertain result. Indeed, how can you justify something with an incredibly ambiguous and future gain?
Vote for pro.
"There are 56.8 million unmarried women in the U.S. They account for 26 percent of the overall population.". So clearly not every woman wants to be desired, or is beautiful.
Regardless, "every woman is beautiful" is absurd.
Besides, if every woman depended on her man to find the job, all jobs that require women would be in desperate need.
Millions of women have become part of the essential workforce. "All women seek career" is just as bad as an extreme as "all women only chase after men".
Next, Con's source contradicts his claim as it says... "Reporting better general health increases the likelihood of higher life satisfaction more than any other factor". This is why my health insurance benefit comes into play and arguably outweighs con's idea.
Next up, Con's same source also says-- Retirees are most satisfied with their life. Well... you need employment FIRST to become a retiree.
Third con's same source is saying "Average life satisfaction is higher for those spending more".
Con has NOT negated the inspiring power of women,
Con even concedes that the woman may still yet want a career even after a man
"leading by example is the best way to truly show girls what they can achieve", the blog states. Indeed, should we inspire women to merely be the man's most entertaining, beautiful, charming partner? Or should we make women into the proper workforce, to contribute to society, one way or another?
con assumes that just because you are married means you are beautiful,
there are obviously other reasons to marry, such as emotional compatible, finance stability, so on and so forth. Becomingminimalist notes 8 ways marriage can be successful, and beauty is not one of them.
Men chase after women has been modern standard already, and as such not having the other way around wouldn't make the world go extinct.
If con is so set on women becoming men's playthings
how would it be any different from becoming a prostitute, a career that's arguably equivalent to con's frivolous argument that argues being mans' object is better than being your own independent woman?
Con still has the slippery slope completely dependent on the idea if no woman chases after men, our species will go instinct. But I think I've negated that pretty thoroughly.
Beautiful woman will always have people hitting on her and complimenting her. There is no pressure to actively go after men. While a career is very unlikely to land in your lap.
Okay... this one was weird.
Pro opens nicely; however, con easily refutes. In the following rounds, pro says con said things con did not say. I don't think that is considered a proper refutation. Either way, Con either says he did not say it (true) or properly refutes it. I also feel like Con better fufilled his BoP.
Tie for souces; both used them.
Grammar and conduct was also fine for both.
Gotcha
I think it was smart considering the resolution's wording, but I disagree
Vote please?
Lol I can't tell if that means you liked or disliked my argument
The semantics are real with this one...
Lol no what
Oh, are you using christian points? Christians value marriage.
+100
I don't think most women much care about what guys who debate online think women should be doing.
tinyurl has failed me? Unacceptable. Here's the site address rather than the image address then.
https://imgur.com/gallery/oJ59jnL
A clever woman could do both or neither. Though current social pressure would incline the clever woman towards a career.
A not so clever woman might feel compelled to think differently.
Are you referring to a clever or not so clever (heterosexual) woman?.....(Bowing to current social pressures re gender and sexuality)
it doesn't even work lol
Tony Stark's opinion on the matter: https://tinyurl.com/yx9y8eqe
Sure. I get there are contributions to society to consider. And if you want a debate solely on those impacts, that is one thing (Actually Seldiora, if you want to avoid a Kritik like mine, you should specify that her opinion is somehow not in the equation).
But there is a whole narrative around "women must join STEM, if you do not you're not fighting the patriarchy!" that I'm very against.
It is more like "is being a draftsman more beneficial to me compared to being an actor"
maybe the beautiful woman can't decide. both sides have their merit, after all.
Why is this for you, me, a judge, or for society at large to decide? Why can't she decide want she wants to do for herself?