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Topic

You get another chance. I'm back on trial. What is the problem you see with me?

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All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.

Arguments points
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15
Sources points
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10
Spelling and grammar points
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5
Conduct points
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5

With 5 votes and 15 points ahead, the winner is ...

RationalMadman
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Disclaimer : Regardless of the setup for voting win or lose, The aim of this interaction, Is for those that view it, Learn and or take away anything that will amount to any constructive value ultimately. So that counts as anything that'll cause one to reconsider an idea, Understand a subject better, Help build a greater wealth of knowledge getting closer to truth. When either of us has accomplished that with any individual here, That's who the victor of the debate becomes.

Here you air your disputes involving the debates I been in with you or with anyone. The topics, the premises, debates that you've seen me in, let's discuss them. Hopefully everybody gets a chance, gets a turn at this as I plan to do several of these trials/confrontations.

Now this is still in the spirit of contest. As you try to prove your points valid, I will render my points to refute and or correct yours.

So in regards to the way I argue or why I made a particular point, said a particular thing, came up with a particular topic, even personal views, here's the opportunity to challenge it all in this challenge. You can question, challenge a challenge, etc.

For clarity or questions, Please send a message or comment prior to accepting debate.

Round 1
Con
Present your case. Particularly one that has no way , shape or form been presented before.
Pro
I get another chance. I was a member the previous times this debate was hosted hy Mall, this is another chance for me.

Mall is on trial, it's true as this debate puts him on trial if you read the description.

What is the issue I have with him?

I propose this question.


Round 2
Con
Alright , what is the problem you see?
Something you didn't try to make a case of before, go ahead and proceed with that.


Pro
My opponent has altered the gatekeeping factors of this debate.

First, Mall says:

Present your case. Particularly one that has no way , shape or form been presented before.
This implies that if anyone has presented a case against him, mine can't in any way, shape or form resemble theirs.

Now, Mall has changed it to being:

Something you didn't try to make a case of before
I have not personally made a case against Mall.

Let's address the burden of proof in this debate:

I get another chance. I was a member the previous times this debate was hosted hy Mall, this is another chance for me.

Mall is on trial, it's true as this debate puts him on trial if you read the description.

What is the issue I have with him?

I propose this question.
To expand on this. 

I have now, inside the debate itself, gotten myself another chance to make a case against him (each Round is a new chance until the last Round where brand new points aren't permitted).

I also want to note that I am proposing the question of what problem/issue I have with him, I am not required to state my issue with him.


I will now state my issues with him anyway:

  1. My first issue is that he wants me to have an issue with him and to put him on trial.
  2. My second issue is that inside this debate itself he's change the requirements for Con to meet in order to win. He often does this in other debates but since he will not use a source (he never does), neither will I because as I said, I am not truly saying I have an issue or that there is a problem, I'm proposing the question and idea that there could be one.

Round 3
Con
So is there a problem you see with me according to the title and description?

Is it with not using sources?

This debate is for people that see a problem with me.




Pro
I do not have a problem with you. The problem is you have one woth yourself.