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Topic
#2626

On DART, the "winner selection" system is superior to the "four points" system.

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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Winner
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After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

fauxlaw
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
5,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
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Description

Superior in terms of what? Accuracy and reliability when deciding the winner. Quality of votes. So on and so forth.

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@Barney

Regarding the kudos suggestion, It occurred to me that a kudos award belongs in argument rather than conduct because it would be a compliment for an above-the-rim argument, after all. Same conditions would apply; that is, an added fourth point for argument when deserved, leaving the other three categories at their current 2, 1, 1 points. Therefore, with kudos added, an 8-point award for a participant, by one voter's assessment, if all four factors are awarded their maximum points that one participant.

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@Barney

Thank you for voting

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@Barney

At one time, I thought S&G was a weak sister in the quad, but I've changed my mind because there have actually been debates wherein I thought a participant made truly incoherent argument. I originally thought it ought to be replaced with a "kudos" for a truly exemplary and above-the-rim argument. I would still lobby to include a kudos award, but only if truly deserved as an added points award [which could potentially be awarded to both participants in a truly outstanding debate], and make it an expansion on conduct, thereby keeping the four points, but enhancing Conduct. I suggest an added point for kudos, making Conduct a value of 2 points, but only if really deserved.

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@fauxlaw

Are there any changes you would suggest to the categories and/or their point applotments?

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@Barney

Sure. Try not to be too biased

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@Barney

I have no objection to either a vote or feedback

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@fauxlaw
@seldiora

Before I read this, do either of you object to me casting a vote? If there is an objection, please also state if you would still like any feedback regardless.

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@fauxlaw

he's from debate.org, he's not here.

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@seldiora

Nope. Never ran across that person here on site. Former member, or is there another username?

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@fauxlaw

RoyLatham

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@seldiora

Sorry, don't know anyone by "Roy." Must know by a different name. Who is Roy. I enjoyed the debate. Hope you did too.

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@fauxlaw

you know, I'm surprised Roy didn't think of your arguments. But I think he was thinking offensively with Ice skating being similar to the 7 point system, which is flawed. You played your cards trickier and more defensively than Roy.