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Resolved: The Impeachment Trial of Donald John Trump in the United States Senate was Unconstitutional

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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Better sources
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4
Better legibility
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Better conduct
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After 4 votes and with 16 points ahead, the winner is...

ILikePie5
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Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
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Description

RESOLVED: The Impeachment Trial of Donald John Trump in the United States Senate was Unconstitutional

For this debate the Structure is as follows:

R1: Arguments Only
R2: Rebuttals to R1
R3: Rebuttals to R2
R4: Closing Statements (No New Arguments)

For the purpose of this debate:

Constitution - a document that embodies the fundamental laws and principles by which the United States is governed. It was drafted by the Constitutional Convention and later supplemented by the Bill of Rights and other amendments.

Unconstitutional - not constitutional; unauthorized by or inconsistent with the constitution, as of a country.

U.S. Senate - the upper chamber of the United States Congress, which, along with the United States House of Representatives—the lower chamber—constitutes the legislature of the United States.

Most definitions for the purpose of this debate will come in the debate itself from the U.S. Constitution; these are just some general definitions, which have been discussed with my opponent prior to start.

I highly advise judges try to think not in terms of Mr. Trump, but in terms of a hypothetical president Mr. X., or even Mr. Orange.

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@ILikePie5

Whoops, don’t know how that happened...
[1] https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S3-C6-1-2/ALDE_00000707/

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@Double_R

Your first link does not work in your R2 rebuttal. Can you post it here so I and the judges can see it?

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@Double_R

Same here lol, snow storm cancelled school here in Texas lmaoo

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@ILikePie5

Found myself with some extra time this weekend, the week ahead will be much tougher...

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@Double_R

Actually the Senate was in like pro forma sessions or something. To officially do something like hold a trial, unanimous consent would be required but Hawley and Cruz wouldn’t have agreed. But either way Pelosi held the Articles for 5 days after the sessions were over before transferring them over

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@ILikePie5

The senate was on recess, but a signature from Schumer and McConnell would have called the Senate back in session. Schumer signed it, McConnell refused. That’s why Pelosi didn’t send the articles, there would have been no one there to receive them.

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@Dr.Franklin
@Sum1hugme

Hope y’all vote in the debate!

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@Barney

Actually, Senate Rules prevented the Trial from beginning until Trump was out of office. Pelosi didn’t send the Articles anyways

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@Double_R

🐢 was able to do that? Damn!

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@Barney

There was nothing weird about it. The democrats wanted to do it while he was still in office but McConnell refused, citing that he was entitled to an opportunity to mount a legal defense. Funny how that works - "we can't try him because we don't have enough time", then "we can't try him because time ran out".

this will be interesting

looking forward to this

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@Barney

I sure hope you’ll be voting lol

I thought it was weird that they decided to wait until after he was out of office... Like if it's a priority, knock the whole thing out immediately and troll him by kicking him out a mere day or two early.