"Clock Boy" Ahmed Mohamed was not discriminated against.
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On September 14, 2015, Ahmed Mohamed brought a device to his public school, MacArthur High School in Irving, Texas. Ahmed claims that the device is a "clock" which he "built" because he considers himself to be an "inventor" outside of school. Ahmed was removed from school and briefly arrested by the police before being released back into his parents custody. He did not face any official charges for a specified crime, although the police and his teachers contend that his "clock" looked like a bomb.
Ahmed became an instant media sensation, going on a whirlwind tour of Hollywood and Washington D.C., with visits to the White House and appearances on numerous talk shows. Ahmed and the Mohamed family were represented by the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and several lawyers, who alleged that Ahmed had been "discriminated against" by the police and the school. The overwhelming majority of the media and political figures supported the Mohamed family, implying that "Islamophobia" was to blame for the event. Many people also inferred a scientific issue was involved in the debate, and that Ahmed (who often appears wearing a 'NASA' t-shirt) should have been encouraged for bringing his device to school, and that his critics are also opponents of science itself. Even government agencies like NASA supported the viewpoint that Ahmed was just a smart little kid who was interested in science;
The Mohamed family subsequently brought several lawsuits in regards to this matter. All lawsuits were dismissed and the Mohamed family was forced to pay all associated costs. In spite of this, Wikipedia still describes criticism of Ahmed as "conspiracy theories" on their page dedicated to the incident;
As 'Pro' for this debate, I allege that Ahmed Mohamed was not a victim of "discrimination" or "Islamophobia" in this incident, and that reports of the in incident were wildly exaggerated by the media before all the facts were known. I also deny the media perspectives that "Islamophobia" was to blame or that Ahmed deserves to be defended on the grounds of scientific advancement.
I expect that 'Con' will argue in favor of Ahmed Mohamed's case, including the claims of "Islamophobia" and a connection to science.
I'm not going to attempt to tack on any crazy rules to this debate. I would prefer that we not waste a lot of time quibbling over semantics or citing dictionary definitions. Otherwise, lets get straight to it; Three rounds and let the observers vote for the winner.
So I turned to eBay, searching for vintage alarm clocks. It only took a minute to locate Ahmed’s clock. See this eBay listing, up at the time of this writing. Amhed’s clock was invented, and built, by Micronta, a Radio Shack subsidiary. Catalog number 63 765.
By now he could have invented something new — not just a clock that only took him a few minutes to put together from parts in his family’s garage, which was full of ’90s-era electronics from when his uncle ran a chain called Beeper Warehouse.
In a series of posts in Twitter, Richard Dawkins suggested that Mohamed and his family might have staged a hoax. Dawkins noted that the clock components were not a new invention...
Based upon previous reports, he showed his supposed invention to an engineering teacher in the morning. Who subsequently warned him that the device looked suspicious and not to show it to anybody else. Apparently rather than heed his warning, according to reports, he then showed his invention to teachers in the next six classes who voiced similar concerns to him. In the sixth period he apparently, without the English teachers knowledge plugged the device into the wall with the intent to set off the timer on the device.
The Dallas Morning News described Mohamed as having “racked up weeks of suspension” and pranking the “classroom projector.”Kubiak admits a fondness for Mohamed yet dubbed him a “weird little kid” who could either wind up the CEO of a company or “head of a gang.”
The sister of the boy who brought a suspected hoax-bomb to his Texas high school said she was suspended from a school in a prior bomb scare. Her suspension occurred in 2009 while she was attending middle school in the same district.
Now a college student, Jamali acknowledged she did not know first-hand what occurred at MacArthur with Ahmed, then underscored, “…Mac is a place where there is no or very little prejudice.”
Muslim leaders in Texas, meanwhile, doubted his claims to religious and scholarly leadership. “This so-called leader, we have never heard of this person,” Imam Zia ul Haque Sheikh, head of the Islamic Center of Irving, told the Seattle Times. “I believe the whole thing is made up.”
In his eyes, the more Ahmed is seen, the better. It’s good for the family, he says. Twice in his life he has run for president of Sudan. He plans to run again in 2020. The more people who know him, the better his chances.
Troubling statements in this Facebook post further the ideology of 9/11 conspiracy theories. The translation suggests that the 9/11 terror attacks were bogus, an inside-job, reading: “That the war against terror is nothing more than an illusion made in America—as al-Qa`ida was made in America, as well as what is happening now in the Arab East at the hands of the West.” The post also alleges that the United States created 9/11 to manufacture the “war on terror.”
Last week, Mohamed removed the National Reform page, perhaps in response to Western media sifting through the content.
We talked about science, but while I’m talking to him on the phone, as I ask him a question, ‘Tell me what happened,’ because I’m curious, right? His sister, over his shoulder, you could hear, listening to the question, giving him the answer.Source.
He captured Ahmed’s metered responses with “eyes drifting off camera” that appeared to look offside “for approval” from someone before answering questions.Source.
On March 13, 2018 a federal lawsuit filed by Ahmed Mohamed's father against the Irving Independent School District, the city of Irving, and several specific individuals, was dismissed with prejudice with the court ordering Mohamed's family to bear all the costs of the lawsuit.
an act or instance of discriminating, or of making a distinction. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination.
Please start reading everything twice if it is going through your head. A lot of people retain 50% of material one one reading and 80% after 2 readings.
As 'Pro' for this debate, I allege that Ahmed Mohamed was not a victim of "discrimination" or "Islamophobia" in this incident, and that reports of the in incident were wildly exaggerated by the media before all the facts were known. I also deny the media perspectives that "Islamophobia" was to blame or that Ahmed deserves to be defended on the grounds of scientific advancement.I expect that 'Con' will argue in favor of Ahmed Mohamed's case, including the claims of "Islamophobia" and a connection to science.
my opponent has already acknowledged ahmed mohomad was treated differently, most kids don't have the cops called on them while at school.
The site was down yesterday... I'd like him to agree that the debate go unvoted on.
I have won anyway...
...he is trying to say Ahmed was not discriminated against because the school had good reasons to discriminatensure [???] against him.
Con must argue;1. That Ahmed was the victim of "Islamophobia" resulting in him being discriminated against unfairly.2. That Ahmed was accurately represented in the media and deserving of the positive benefits of that representation.3. That Ahmed was deserving of being defended on the "scientific" merits of his "invention" of the clock.If Con plans to toss all of that out the window and argue only for a generic "discrimination" case, then he will have effectively ignored the vast majority of the topics which were actually intended to be debated and thus will surely lose this debate.
- Ahmed lied and committed plagiarism by claiming to have "invented" a clock which was actually left over from his Uncle's failed business.
- Ahmed had a long history of bad behavior and prior pranks at school.
- Ahmed's sister had also been involved in a similar incident at a school in the same district.
- The valedictorian of Ahmed's school was also a Muslim and denied that there was any bias against Muslim's present in the school.
- The media ignored Ahmed's lies and prior bad behavior, promoting him as a champion of STEM education by giving him multiple talk-show appearances, a photo-op with President Obama and a large quantity of free stuff.
- Ahmed's own father openly admitted that the family had both political and financial motives for pursuing a claim of "Islamophobia" in Ahmed's case.
- Although Ahmed's family filed multiple lawsuits against multiple parties alleging that Ahmed had been "discriminated" against in some way, every single one of those lawsuits resulted in an embarrassing defeat for Ahmed, often requiring the Muhammad family to bear all the legal costs associated with the lawsuit.