Instigator / Pro
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1492
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Topic
#3157

Systemic racism exists in America

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
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6
Better sources
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4
Better legibility
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2
Better conduct
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2

After 2 votes and with 14 points ahead, the winner is...

fauxlaw
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
14
1702
rating
77
debates
70.13%
won
Description

Pro: Will argue that systemic racism exists in America
Con: Will argue that systemic racism does not exist in America

Structure:
rounds 1 & 2 - opening arguments + Defence +rebuttals
round 3 - No new arguments + Rebuttals + defence + Closing statements

Definitions:
Systemic racism - A form of racism that is embedded through laws and regulations within society or an organization. It can lead to such issues as discrimination in criminal justice, employment, housing, health care, political power, and education, among other issues.

Racism - Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

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@Barney

I debated in every single one of the debates that got deleted.

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@RationalMadman

While obsessing over something from so very long ago, you're also committing to a rather obvious false dilemma.

How many obvious spam debates did fauxlaw accept from paper12? And what evidence is there to suggest fauxlaw knew paper12 would be banned?

Currently all signs point to fauxlaw having accepted this single debate in good faith.

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@David
@Barney
@Vader
@MisterChris

I debated type1 on an alt or two and had all of them deleted because they involved a banned user on an alt.

Either Bsh1 was wrong to do this and David is a lying scumbag when he says I did something wrong or you delete this.

Not quite yet in the voting period.

One thing I have realized recently is that most people that argue that there isn't systemic racism would actually change their minds if they thought about it. Of course, they would come to a different idea than most who argue for systemic racism.

Specifically, Reservations. They are a great example of where systemic control causes a people of a certain race to be stuck in poverty, low income, poorer education on average, etc. and the locals have no authority to change it how they desire as Reservations are controlled top down rather than bottom up like the rest of the US.

It would seem unfair to score a "win" simply because your opponent was banned.

Ok now comments #1-3 are pretty funny.

It would appear, based on action taken by Mod [SupaDudz] today, that my opponent has been banned until 9/5 for alt usage, which will cause a forfeiture of at least R2. I have already composed argument for R2, and, as there will be no Pro R2, with rebuttal of my R1, I need no further rebuttal, and I can post my R2 immediately [in 12 days +]. I also have some of R3 composed [not new argument]. Pro may not achieve an R3, either. We'll see. Too bad, I was looking forward to this, as I have had additional thoughts on the matter. What is it about the Internet that fosters aliases? Why can't we just be ourselves? We can't be anyone else; they're already taken.

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@Fruit_Inspector

lol, but seriously I'm not him that would be pointless.

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@drlebronski

"I gave him permission to add on to my argument"

That seems like a lot of trouble to go to, signing in and out of accounts to ask for permission. Just don't forget to be signed in to the right account when your commenting haha just joking

Honestly, it really doesn't matter to me either way so I'll stop poking fun about it.

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@Fruit_Inspector

I gave him permission to add on to my argument

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@Bones

You know, I had my doubts until the opening argument. Compare to https://www.debateart.com/debates/3121-america-is-a-systemically-racist-country

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@Bones

Am i a joke to you? "Doc’s a bit more of a meme."

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@Bones

I mean, we have "Human" going against himself in the past, so I can't say.

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@Fruit_Inspector

Paper looks like a decently serious debater, I think. Doc’s a bit more of a meme.

i will now write my argument

It occurred to me that paper12 and drlebronski seem suspiciously similar. Then I realized that the comments section would seem kind of funny now if that were true.

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@fauxlaw

interested?

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@drlebronski

fauxlaw would also be good

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@Dr.Franklin
@MisterChris
@Fruit_Inspector

interested?