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Topic

YOU CHOOSE A TOPIC

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Waiting for the contender's second argument.

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Time for argument
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Voting period
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Contender / Con
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Opponent must present a topic and framework in the chat. I will agree with a specific resolution and debate that topic.

ONLY RULE IS NO TROLLISH TOPICS.

Any suggested changes to the debate will be implemented.

Round 1
Pro
Thank you janesix for joining this debate.

PRELUDE: 
My opponent has apparently not read the description and accepted this debate before I accepted the offer. However, as a good sport, I am willing to debate this to the end. Good luck CON. 

THBT: The Mandela Effect is Real

BURDEN OF PROOF:

The burden of proof is always on the person who brings a claim in a dispute. It is often associated with the Latin maxim semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit, a translation of which in this context is: "the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges."[2] In civil suits, for example, the plaintiff bears the burden of proof that the defendant's action or inaction caused injury to the Plaintiff, and the Defendant bears the burden of proving an affirmative defenseBurden of proof (law) - Wikipedia
Seeing as there is proof that the Mandela Effect is real, CON holds the responsibility to prove otherwise. 

FRAMEWORK:

Another thing I specified in my description is that the person suggesting the subject must provide a framework, a argument frame, the goal of PRO and CON, and which person is on which side. For the sake of argument, I will fulfill the necessary goal of proving the Mandela Effect is real. I will allow my opponent one more round to provide a framework.

ARGUMENT 1: "Luke, I am your father"

The first thing we have to clear up is, what is the Mandela Effect? 

"The Mandela Effect refers to a situation in which a large mass of people believes that an event occurred when it did not." What Is the Mandela Effect? (verywellmind.com)
My opponent has given me a resolution where my only goal is to prove that the Mandela Effect is real. 

REAL: actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed. - Oxford Languages
Since there has been an occurrence of the Mandela Effect, with confirmations by a lot of people, it is safe to assume the effect is real. Consider the following syllogism:

P1: Mandela Effect has happened.
P2: Something that happened cannot be fake.
R: The Mandela Effect is real. 

P1: THE MANDELA EFFECT HAPPENED.

If you saw Star Wars: Episode V—The Empire Strikes Back, you probably remember Darth Vader uttering the famous line, "Luke, I am your father."

You might be surprised to learn, then, that the line was actually, "No, I am your father." Most people have memories of the line being the former rather than the latter.
I myself can relate to this. 

P2: SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED CANNOT BE FAKE.

Imagine WWII. We know it happened. We have proof, we have testimonies, and we have artifacts. It happened. So, how could it be fake?

So, the Mandela Effect is real. 

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Con
Forfeited
Round 2
Pro
My opponent has forfeited a round in a 3 round debate. In an effort to maintain fairness, I will not make any new arguments, and will carry my arguments to the next round.  I sincerely hope that my opponent will be here for Round 2.  
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