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THE CORONAVIRUS IS A FRAUD

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Bones
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CORONAVIRUS: an infectious disease

fraud: not real, staged.

Round 1
Pro
You have been deceived by the media, Government, Pharmaceutical companies and doctors. It has been known for at least 150 years that germs do not cause disease. This was proven by a biologist by the name of Antoine Bechamp. He was a contemporary of Louis Pasteur. It was proven that germs are the result of a disease and are not the cause of it. Recent technology and understanding of vitamins has further confirmed this information. Disease is unnatural and doesn"t occur by itself in nature. Humans have strayed from nature by growing cereal crops to store for the winter period when foods are scarce. Unfortunately, There is a hidden cost in eating grain food. When plants make a seed they add toxic chemicals and sharp edges to discourage foraging animals from eating grass seeds and some tree seeds. When animals eat grain seeds the toxic chemicals and sharp edges irritate the gut causing inflammation of the gut lining. (leaky gut syndrome) This causes gaps in the gut lining to expand which allows gut bacteria and food material to enter the bloodstream. Also, Grain is deficient in vitamins which humans need. Grain is a high octane fuel designed for birds. When humans eat grain it causes an acceleration of their metabolic rate and a small increase in body temperature. A doctor would call this a fever. But this fever is not caused by germs, But by fast digesting sugars from grain, Alcohol, Milk and refined sugar sources. This is the true cause of 99% of all human disease. Note - Junk food causes disease, Not germs. That"s why coronavirus mostly occurs on cruise ships, Nursing homes, Theme parks and fast food outlets.There is only one human disease which is called vitamin deficiency disease. There are not thousands of different diseases. There is no such thing as viruses. I know, Because I have worked in an electron microscope unit where I learnt how to use all the equipment. I also learnt about the electron microscope"s limitations as well. An electron microscope wouldn"t be able to find a "virus, " if in fact; they did exist. You can"t photograph what you can"t find. All alleged photos of viruses are blurry images. Why? This is a deliberate deception because viruses don"t exist, So they have to make the photos unclear so that nobody can see that the photos are of cell debris and are not photos of viruses. The electron microscope can see individual atoms so there can be no excuse for not having clear and precise images of so-called "viruses". The average age of people dying from so called "COVID 19" is 79. 5 years of age which is the exact same as the average life expectancy. Thus, There has been no decrease in life expectancy which means nothing has changed. Common diseases like heart attack and influenza are renamed COVID 19, So don"t be fooled by medical and government officials who hope to gain profit, Power, Money and population control from this huge global scam. Help to stop this medical system dictatorship. Sign petitions against forced vaccinations. References - Virus Mania by Torsten Engelbrecht and Vaccination Liberation home page - page 2 Google search.


CONCLUSION:the corona virus is a fraud
Con
Thx Doc, 

THBT: 
  • THE CORONAVIRUS IS A FRAUD
Before I begin, I must make it known that my opposition's argument is completely plagiarized from debate.org. However, though the argument is not original, it came from a pseudoscientific lad stranded in the wasteland of debate.org, as such it isn't very good.

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CONTENTION I:First-hand testimony by scientists and doctors



- Carol Winner, public health expert who has worked with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the National Institutes of Health for more than 30 years.
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CONTENTION II: Global Data


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CONTENTION III: Excess death statistics

The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.

An analysis by¬†The New York Times¬†in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to July‚ÄĒabout 200,000 more deaths than expected‚ÄĒeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.

Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.

The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official  Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.

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REBUTTALS: 

It has been known for at least 150 years that germs do not cause disease. This was proven by a biologist by the name of Antoine Bechamp.
Germ theory denialism is the¬†pseudoscientific belief¬†that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, ‚ÄúThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.‚ÄĚ Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.

Disease is unnatural and doesn't occur by itself in nature.

That's why coronavirus mostly occurs on cruise ships, Nursing homes, Theme parks and fast food outlets.
Unsourced. 

There are not thousands of different diseases.
An A-Z list of diseases. 

There is no such thing as viruses.
An A-Z list of viruses. 

I know, Because I have worked in an electron microscope unit where I learnt how to use all the equipment.
Appeal to personal experience.  

The average age of people dying from so called "COVID 19" is 79. 5 years of age which is the exact same as the average life expectancy. Thus, There has been no decrease in life expectancy which means nothing has changed.
The syllogism my opponent has adopted is something like the following. 

p1. The average age of people dying from Covid is 79.5
p2. The average life expectancy is 79.5
c1. Thus there is no decrease in life expectancy. 

Just because the average life expectancy didn't drop, doesn't mean the virus isn't real. This would be like saying "the average age of death is 79.5 therefore anyone who crashes their car aged 79.5 didn't die". 
Round 2
Pro
Before I begin, I must make it known that my opposition's argument is completely plagiarized from debate.org. However, though the argument is not original, it came from a pseudoscientific lad stranded in the wasteland of debate.org, as such it isn't very good.

wrong link i copied it from here not that link

did you not see my argument??? They are deceiving you.

lies


The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.

An analysis by¬†The New York Times¬†in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to July‚ÄĒabout 200,000 more deaths than expected‚ÄĒeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.

Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.

The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official  Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.
the first study is liberalist lies.

as for the second itsn just a coincidence

the CDC is not to be trusted

That's why coronavirus mostly occurs on cruise ships, Nursing homes, Theme parks and fast food outlets.
Unsourced. 

The syllogism my opponent has adopted is something like the following. 

p1. The average age of people dying from Covid is 79.5
p2. The average life expectancy is 79.5
c1. Thus there is no decrease in life expectancy. 

Just because the average life expectancy didn't drop, doesn't mean the virus isn't real. This would be like saying "the average age of death is 79.5 therefore anyone who crashes their car aged 79.5 didn't die". 
strawman
An A-Z list of viruses.
wrong thats lies they r all the same germs,


Appeal to personal experience.  
no.

Germ theory denialism is the¬†pseudoscientific belief¬†that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a¬†particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, ‚ÄúThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.‚ÄĚ Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.
psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt valid
Con
Thx Doc, 

Unfortunately, you have not responded to my professional source. 

Unelaborated claim. 

The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.

An analysis by¬†The New York Times¬†in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to July‚ÄĒabout 200,000 more deaths than expected‚ÄĒeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.

Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.

The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official  Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.
the first study is liberalist lies.
Unelaborated claim. 

as for the second itsn just a coincidence

the CDC is not to be trusted
Unelaborated claim. 

The syllogism my opponent has adopted is something like the following. 

p1. The average age of people dying from Covid is 79.5
p2. The average life expectancy is 79.5
c1. Thus there is no decrease in life expectancy. 

Just because the average life expectancy didn't drop, doesn't mean the virus isn't real. This would be like saying "the average age of death is 79.5 therefore anyone who crashes their car aged 79.5 didn't die". 
strawman
Unelaborated claim. 

An A-Z list of viruses.
wrong thats lies they r all the same germs,
Unelaborated claim. 

Germ theory denialism is the¬†pseudoscientific belief¬†that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a¬†particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, ‚ÄúThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.‚ÄĚ Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.
psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt valid
Unelaborated claim. I shown why germ theory denialism is false with scientific experimentation. 
Round 3
Pro
Unfortunately, you have not responded to my professional source. 
No. i know they r because my dad is a scientist he tells me alllllllllllllll about their lies.

Unelaborated claim. 
incorrect.


The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.

An analysis by¬†The New York Times¬†in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to July‚ÄĒabout 200,000 more deaths than expected‚ÄĒeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.

Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.

The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official  Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.
the first study is liberalist lies.
Unelaborated claim. 
lets get this straight.
"Scientific" results especially when from the CDC are outright LIES they have a clear liberal bias.



Germ theory denialism is the¬†pseudoscientific belief¬†that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a¬†particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, ‚ÄúThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.‚ÄĚ Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.
psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt valid
Unelaborated claim. I shown why germ theory denialism is false with scientific experimentation. 
refer to above post
Con
Thx doc, 

Unfortunately, you have not responded to my professional source. 
No. i know they r because my dad is a scientist he tells me alllllllllllllll about their lies.
Appeal to authority. 

Unelaborated claim. 
incorrect.
Unelaborated claim. 

The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.

An analysis by¬†The New York Times¬†in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to July‚ÄĒabout 200,000 more deaths than expected‚ÄĒeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.

Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.

The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official  Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.
the first study is liberalist lies.
Unelaborated claim. 
lets get this straight.
"Scientific" results especially when from the CDC are outright LIES they have a clear liberal bias.Unelaborated claim. 
Please elaborate on why they are lies. 


Germ theory denialism is the¬†pseudoscientific belief¬†that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a¬†particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, ‚ÄúThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.‚ÄĚ Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.
psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt valid
Unelaborated claim. I shown why germ theory denialism is false with scientific experimentation. 
refer to above post
Refer to my analysis on Germ theory denialism. 


Round 4
Pro
Unelaborated claim. 
incorrect.
Unelaborated claim. 
No.

The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.

An analysis by¬†The New York Times¬†in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to July‚ÄĒabout 200,000 more deaths than expected‚ÄĒeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.

Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.

The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official  Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.
the first study is liberalist lies.
Unelaborated claim. 
lets get this straight.
"Scientific" results especially when from the CDC are outright LIES they have a clear liberal bias.Unelaborated claim. 
Please elaborate on why they are lies. 
because the people in CDC have a clear liberal bias



Germ theory denialism is the¬†pseudoscientific belief¬†that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a¬†particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, ‚ÄúThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.‚ÄĚ Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.
psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt valid
Unelaborated claim. I shown why germ theory denialism is false with scientific experimentation. 
refer to above post
Refer to my analysis on Germ theory denialism. 

apeal to authority
Con
The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.

An analysis by¬†The New York Times¬†in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to July‚ÄĒabout 200,000 more deaths than expected‚ÄĒeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.

Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.

The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official  Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.
the first study is liberalist lies.
Unelaborated claim. 
lets get this straight.
"Scientific" results especially when from the CDC are outright LIES they have a clear liberal bias.Unelaborated claim. 
Please elaborate on why they are lies. 
because the people in CDC have a clear liberal bias
Evidence?

Unelaborated claim. 
incorrect.
Unelaborated claim. 
No. 
Burden is on you to prove this. 

Germ theory denialism is the¬†pseudoscientific belief¬†that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a¬†particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, ‚ÄúThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.‚ÄĚ Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.
psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt valid
Unelaborated claim. I shown why germ theory denialism is false with scientific experimentation. 
refer to above post
Refer to my analysis on Germ theory denialism. 

apeal to authority
I provided an analysis not authority. 
Round 5
Pro
CONCLUSION

My opponent is clearly a MEMBER of the CDC working to Brainwash everyone on this site with communist propaganda.
Either that or he has been microchipped by the reptilian elite, vaccinated, turned gay, turned into a super soldier puppet of hilary clinton.


MY CASE

Last night when praying to god i heard his voice tell me the coronavirus is a fraud.
I also heard him say bones is a god-damn idiot libtard with 3 brain cells at max
"when jesus returns he will be the first to die by noose as he has defied god himself"
 Please note that bones is F*cking idiot B*tch mother F*ucker.
Con
Interesting interesting. Well as no part of my case has been successfully refuted, I suppose this a W for me. Vote wisely.