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Reality can change at any moment

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Pick one thing, such as the human skull, a map of the world, the shape of the Galaxy, or anything really. Check it once a week.

Just do it. You will see.

Round 1
Pro
There are many changes to reality, it is not a "memory issue". Changes can be tracked. 

Choose several subjects and track them weekly. The human skul and world maps change the most often that I have seen. 

I don't worry about song lyrics etc. Those COULD be memory issues. 

What do a Tiger's ears look like? Think about it, then Google it. 

Generally the changes are common among a lot of people. Like there are several similar time lines converging. 

However, if you fall into this rabbit hole you will go insane, for sure so be careful.
Con
Definitions

reality
 the totality of real things and events


change
to make or become different:

moment

a very short period of time

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The impossibility of 'moments' if reality is changing
Let's start analysing the self-contradictory way that moment has two definitions and it becomes impossible to determine which one is the case.

So, for instance, let's say that you had a moment, in which Pro had you believe that reality changed because a tiger's ear had altered its form, or because the human skull shape has altered across different races, ethnicities due to natural selection over many generations. These things are all several moments, not a moment.

What I am saying here is that at any moment, reality is static, for that is what makes it a moment.

Nonetheless, if moments are not taken to be static, if they are fluid but just very small periods of time, I'd then like to explore the next angle of semantics and philosophy...

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Reality exists outside of time.

Things fluctuate and alter over time, no matter how infinitesmally small that time may be. If moments are considered to not be short enough to be considered static, it then follows that the duration of the changes itself was within a static reality outside of that parameter.

Reality dosn't change because something inside of it changes, the very thing we call time itself is a variable inside of reality, not something reality moves through. It is the same reality, the same 'outer container' if you will, that is encasing the entire change occuring to the contents within it.

Even if every single thing within the reality really did change and we said the time it changed was small it enough to call it a moment, the reality hasn't changed, only its contents have done so.

The reality is intangible because it is actually a semantic absolute, it is everything even if 'every thing' in fact altered at a certain moment.
Round 2
Pro
Forfeited
Con
Are Changes part of reality?

The changing itself happens over a very specific thing... Time.

The question is, is the time itself and way things changed a changing of reality or are they actually within its contents?

I argue, in this debate, that they are part of reality that is in fact axiomatically stationary.
Round 3
Pro
Forfeited
Con
So, for instance, right here and right now is reality changing so that she forfeits or was it always that way?

It comes down to whether the entire movement of time and progression of events are reality transforming or instead are all within reality, regardless.

To better understand my argument on a physical level, my concept of reality as portrayed in this debate has no beginning and no end, it is an absolute entity forever existing in which the entire passage of time and events taking place everywhere occur, those things changing could seem to support the resolution but the changes themselves are part of the reality, that reality isn't moving through the time at all, this is just within it.

Time applies to almost everything but not reality itself. You see, this is even true if you believe in god, your god simply has instead taken the role of the 'supreme reality' and functionally my argument works.
Round 4
Pro
Forfeited
Con
I win.

Reality.

You cannot change it.

Can you?

Well, if you post in the next Round, that is the reality, it is just that we are stuck in this point in the timeline, reality isn't though, reality's already seen the end of this story...

Round 5
Pro
Forfeited
Con
No worries