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Topic

Minecraft is better than any other sandbox game

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Games
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RULE: You must state your game before you accept the debate.

Round 1
Pro
Hello RM, I look forward to a informative debate. 

Definitions:

Minecraft: the proprietary name of a sandbox video game with construction, crafting, exploration, and combat mechanics, available on many game platforms. (dictionary.com)
Roblox: Roblox is an online game platform and game creation system developed by Roblox Corporation. It allows users to program games and play games created by other users. (wikipedia.org)
Better: more desirable, satisfactory, or effective. (Oxford Languages)
Sandbox Game: A sandbox game is a video game with a gameplay element that provides the player a great degree of creativity to interact with, usually without any predetermined goal, or alternatively with a goal that the player sets for themshelves. (wikipedia.org)

Arguments:

1. Minecraft is a one time purchase.

Now, this doesn't sound like an argument at all, but I'd like to point out, if you download Roblox, they offer cosmetics and premium maps if you're willing to shell out $5 every month for an allowance of Robux, a digital currency added to trick little kids into emptying their parents pockets.

I know this feature is optional, and there is plenty of other options, but compared to Minecraft, which is one purchase of $24.99 gives you access to everything the community has made, including servers, singleplayer, and free downloadable maps from websites like planetminecraft.com.

2. Customizable gameplay.

Roblox has one client to play on.... Roblox. No customization, no ability for additional features, and moderately optimized.

Minecraft has a huge abundance of custom clients, including Optifine, a big optimization client, and more commonly used than the default Minecraft Launcher.
They also have a wide variety for different setups and purposes.

3. Driven by your desires.

Minecraft is a game where you can do whatever you want. You can play with friends, strangers, or by yourself. You can build whatever you want, do whatever you want, and use whatever you want to do anything. 

In Roblox, you have less control over what you play. You play whatever the community makes, and have set goals and targets. 

I'm going to end it here, since I'm writing this during online class.

On to you RM
Con
Roblox has one client to play on.... Roblox. No customization, no ability for additional features, and moderately optimized.
This has to be the biggest lie in Pro's case. In fact everything except discussion of the payment method in Pro's case is absolutely fallacious and lie-based.

I am going as far as to say that Pro is arguing in entirely bad faith and will save proof of it for my Round 2, call it bad conduct if you want to but I will prove to you that Pro is the liar here.

To put this into perspective for you, Roblox is so insanely vast and flexible in what you can do that when Squid Game came out, gamers were playing the Roblox version(s) that either had the balls to risk being taken down for copyright and called 'squid game' or which went for names like 'hexa game' (and since Crab Game came out on steam, Roblox has made free alternatives).

Minecraft is corrupt, only the children of the well-off can afford a game like that. What parent is gonna pay $30 for their little children to play just one type of game that they may dislike? It's a much more healthy pay model for children to let them try it out for free with their parents and then decide if they wish to pay for Robux and spend on things in the game.

I also think you'll find that Roblox has not only been around longer, it's just the OG sandbox game of this era. Sure, minecraft has found its niche and dominated the market and aimed at popular streamers but Roblox is so good it doesn't even have to sponsor streamers, to my knowledge. 

In Roblox you, if you're a creator, can make any game genre you can dream of pretty much (just have to be careful about copyright if it's in any way a remake). You imagine it? You can make it, it's a question of time, effort and skill. I'm talking through from paintball to roleplaying casual games to solo-played obstacles courses (but which you can do with friends if you want to).

It's a brilliant game also because, unlike minecraft, if you're lazy and don't feel like building, you can just be a player and explore other people's imagination and brilliance in a really healthy ecosystem where both as a player and creator, you contribute to ensuring the best games in it stay alive and reward the creator.
Round 2
Pro
Rebuttal:

To put this into perspective for you, Roblox is so insanely vast and flexible in what you can do that when Squid Game came out, gamers were playing the Roblox version(s) that either had the balls to risk being taken down for copyright and called 'squid game' or which went for names like 'hexa game' (and since Crab Game came out on steam, Roblox has made free alternatives).

Minecraft is corrupt, only the children of the well-off can afford a game like that. What parent is gonna pay $30 for their little children to play just one type of game that they may dislike? It's a much more healthy pay model for children to let them try it out for free with their parents and then decide if they wish to pay for Robux and spend on things in the game.
Point 1:
This was a defense to the point in which I said:

Roblox has one client to play on.... Roblox. No customization, no ability for additional features, and moderately optimized.
My definition of a client, when connected with gaming, means

A game client is a network client that connects an individual user to the main game server, used mainly in multiplayer video games. - Wikipedia
Therefore, this defense is flawed, seeing as I never mentioned maps or individual creations. What I was arguing was that Roblox has no custom launcher, or opener. There is just the default. Minecraft has many different clients, which can all be focused towards different things.

Point 2:


There are many ways to experience Minecraft without paying for it. Minecraft released an old version on the web so they can test building mechanics. They can download the free trial and see if they like it. They can watch videos, ask their friends, talk with their parents, and buy the game knowing whether they want it or not. 

It's a brilliant game also because, unlike minecraft, if you're lazy and don't feel like building, you can just be a player and explore other people's imagination and brilliance in a really healthy ecosystem where both as a player and creator, you contribute to ensuring the best games in it stay alive and reward the creator.
*Headslap

Ok.... Minecraft has something known as SERVERS. On the SERVERS, you can experience what other people have done, what they have created, and experience your own fun for whatever you want. 

hypixel.net, cubecraft.com, lunar.gg, minemen.club.
All the afore mentioned servers have a store in where you can donate money to them in exchange for ingame perks. For example, donating 5$ to Hypixel will give you:
 
- Pets
- Flying in the lobbies
- No chat cooldown
- Aiding Server Experience

In comparison, there is currently no store on Roblox to support creators. The only thing they can do is donate robux, and that isn't that worthwhile. 

I also think you'll find that Roblox has not only been around longer, it's just the OG sandbox game of this era. Sure, minecraft has found its niche and dominated the market and aimed at popular streamers but Roblox is so good it doesn't even have to sponsor streamers, to my knowledge. 

Syllogism:
1. Streamer plays Minecraft
2. Streamers viewers get interested
3. More people play Minecraft
4. More people play Minecraft and Stream.

A prebuttal

  • Less Ability for User Creation



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