Instigator / Pro
6
1417
rating
27
debates
24.07%
won
Topic
#3441

God definitely exists

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
6
Better sources
2
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
2

After 2 votes and with 8 points ahead, the winner is...

Bones
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
14
1761
rating
31
debates
95.16%
won
Description

Definition of God:

The omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omnibenevolent God of the bible.
Rules:

* Avoid commiting these fallacies: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
* respond as fast as possible
* do not offend or insult anyone
(Note that I will also be held up by these rules

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

This debate was ultimately flawed in its execution and rule set, the inclusion of both the term 'definitely' and the definition of God ("The omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omnibenevolent God of the bible.")

Contention 1: Kalam Cosmological Argument

In R1, PRO brings up the Kalam Argument, which states:
Whatever begins to exist has a cause of its existence, (ii) The universe began to exist, and (iii) Therefore, the universe has a cause of its existence.
In rebuttal of the first point (Whatever begins to exist has a cause of existence), CON brings up retro causality and quantum entanglement, in which the effects can affect the causes. PRO argues that it is just a hypothetical concept and not visible with evidence, and further states that it's impossible by Black's Bilking Argument, which CON correctly catches as a mistake between macroscopic retro causality and microscopic retro causality. PRO then makes an incorrect assumption about the term, so this argument is given to CON

Since the BOP for PRO was to make sure no contentions were arguable...

P1: Definitely implies there is no contention
P2: There is a contention
C: The resolution is false.

GGs Bones

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

See reason in Comments.