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#3646
THBT: People on the right are mentally and physically stronger than people on the left.
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Winner & statistics
After 1 vote and with 4 points ahead, the winner is...
Ehyeh
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- Number of rounds
- 2
- Time for argument
- Two weeks
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- 15,000
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- One month
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- Open
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Description
Although I myself could be considered on the side of the left (generally speaking), I've had enough of bullshit such as: "health at every size." I've had enough of soy consumption by leftist men. This issue of "health at every size" is so bad that the right is literally said to have a monopoly on the fitness industry. Leftists are weak, frail, and possess a victim mentality. I say this as someone on the left. Prove me wrong.
I want this discussion to be US and EU centred, instead of bringing up places like china where I cannot find any studies or even know their views.
PRO: People on the left are generally physically and mentally weaker than those on the right (and arguably more socially inept too).
CON: People on the right are generally physically and mentally weaker than those on the left.
Round 1
Introduction: why communists are losers in life
Really, I'm unsure why I opened up this debate. I'm disappointed I didn't decide to open up a debate based more on the lines of metaphysics of epistemology. I imagine it had a lot to do with a discussion I had with a group of communists the other day who were ultimate skeptics. This group of communists literally denied everything. They even said to me that they're not even sure of their own existence. I then proceeded to ask them if they could empty a boot full of water with the instructions written on the bottom, yet all of them claimed they were certain of their capability to do this feat. Yet in the same breath, they don't know if they exist. huh, odd. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the mind of a loser communist. They don't believe in God, they don't believe in love, they don't even believe they exist. They blame the fact that they're either emancipated or obese with the idea of determinism. Everything is out of their control. A communist never takes responsibility for their problems. They believe all problems and all circumstances are created solely through capitalism and institutions; no one will (they don't even believe in will) have any role in someone's life outcomes.
The effects of political ideology and physical attractiveness
Scientific studies have proven that republicans are better looking than their democrat peers. This isn't even communists, but democrats. Imagine what the average communists look like. Evidently, as i will prove later on communists don't care for fitness (its out of their control to be healthy, determinism).
conservatives are physically healthier
There is Much evidence that exists suggesting that conservatives are on the whole healthier than liberals. For example, geographic areas that are primarily conservative in voting patterns have lower mortality rates, score higher on physical well-being, and have lower smoking rates than those that vote mainly liberal. this pattern of findings is not limited to the United States but can be found in the United Kingdom, Ireland, Japan, Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, and 29 other European nations. Once more this is liberals not even communists, those guys are as unhealthy as they look! one study isnt good enough? heres another.
Conservatives report greater meaning in life than leftists
Across five studies, conservatives reported greater meaning and purpose in life than liberals at each reporting period. This finding remained significant after adjusting for religiosity and was usually stronger than the relationships involving other well-being measures. Finally, meaning in life was more closely related to social conservatism than economic conservatism.
Communists are losers and geeks and have less self control because of their beliefs in free will
Evidence from three studies reveals a critical difference in self-control as a function of political ideology. Specifically, greater endorsement of political conservatism (versus liberalism) was associated with greater attention regulation and task persistence. Moreover, this relationship is shown to stem from varying beliefs in freewill; specifically, the association between political ideology and self-control is mediated by differences in the extent to which belief in freewill is endorsed, is independent of task performance or motivation, and is reversed when freewill is perceived to impede (rather than enhance) self-control. Once more, this is democrats they're much more likely to believe in free will than a communist. Just picture it in your head, how sad it must be to be your everyday ultimate skeptic communist who believes all their problems are from capitalism, a lack of free will and in the same breathe also believing you don't even know if you exist.
Obese leftists are much more likely to blame genetics for being fat
Self-reported overweight people, if they were Democrats are more likely to believe genetic factors cause obesity, while Republicans who see themselves are overweight still assign eating habits and lifestyle choices as the cause, according to a new study. This is what "healthy at every weight" gets us. It makes people give up on themselves!
right wing men are physically stronger than left leaning men
Men who are strong are more likely to take a right-wing stance, while weaker men support the welfare state, researchers claim. Their study discovered a link between a man’s upper-body strength and their political views. Scientists from Aarhus University in Denmark collected data on bicep size, socio-economic status and support for economic redistribution from hundreds in America, Argentina and Denmark.
Intelligence, Thinking Style, & Problem-Solving
research suggests that individuals who identified as Republican had greater probability knowledge, higher verbal reasoning ability, and better question comprehension. This demonstrates (as i suspected from anecdotal experience) conservatives are more socially aware and possess better social skills.
To further illustrate the lack of social awareness of leftists: On Twitter, liberals swear more (with ‘f**k’ and ‘sh*t’ in their top ten most used words).
People who are left wing are significantly more likely to be mentally ill
This chat is perfect, as it completely debunks any arguments rationalmadman can sling back at me, as liberals and conservatives have relatively similar levels of diagnosed mental illness. the far left however massively skew the figure, with over 40% of communists being mentally ill! As is evident to anyone who has talked to a group of communists. There is only a 10% divide between young democrats and young conservatives. This also means its impossible to pivot to differences in age creating the staggering 30% average difference in mental illness. Marxists are extremely sick in the head, as my study shows.
Forfeited
Round 2
RationalMadman is a based male, I must admit. His recent posts (although I may not fully agree) show he's still got some man left in him.
I can't think of a way to compensate for the lost Round 1 here, I will be penalised for bringing up all constructive in final round.
The truth is that if we look at what strength really is, the left wing is stronger, since they admit they are weaker and get the right help much more readily than the right wing do, especially psychologically but also physically.
That's what I was going to show.
That said, this is too late to do anything and I'm not going to waste effort on a defeat where my arguments will all go to waste.
I completely forgot about this debate.
May i get some smexy votes my beautiful peeps?
The right: Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Chuck Norris
The left: Greta Thunberg, George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Lizzo
I think this is a pretty easy debate.
That's typically a liberal thing. The term limousine liberal exists for a reason. The wife's family is a bunch of wealthy liberals. I can't help but to think, they are only liberals because their big gates help protect them from the laws they pass that make the rest of us unsafe
merit like daddy's inheritance.
You would have lost anyway RM. What drives the left is a type of hatred of those who are mentally and physically superior. It's why they seek equality through hurting others, while conservatives try to create economic environments that allow people to rise up strictly through merit
oh man i forgot this debate.................................................... fuck
90% of people have been programmed by society to be losers and to stay in line. to either disregard your health or to place too much emphasis on self-control in order to avoid looking at the beam in one's own eye. We have no independent thinkers; everyone is a lunatic through philosophical and political brainwashing. People need to wake up out the matrix and realise the lies they've been fed.
I'm more than prepared for the mental condition argument. I have way more data (from pew research) with even more sophisticated graphs (which consider everything which may have been left out in my first round argument). No stones will be left unturned. Republicans may not want to regulate food as much as Democrats, but this may be due to the fact that they will get off their asses and go to the gym more frequently. All you really point out is the exact same mentality as why communists are losers to begin with. Trying to regulate others' behaviour instead of their own. Of course i believe a synthesis of these two ideologies must be where the truth exists. Yet communists are just as bad as hardcore conservatives.
40% of democrats have a mental illness compared to 12% of republicans, that's a massive difference. Its on con to show this difference is caused through a stigma against mental health.
People with right-wing political views are probably less likely to speak publically about or seek treatment for mental health issues, but they are not necessarily more ill. There have definitely been external disadvantages to the destigmatization of mental health but I think overall it is better that people do not hide these things
Interesting.
Leftists are also far more likely to be mentally ill (as I've noticed).
New research indicates that social conservatism can help explain the negative correlation between religiosity and cognitive abilities.
There exists a cluster of psychological traits and attitudes that have been described as the “conservative syndrome.” The term isn’t meant to describe conservatism as a disease. Rather, “syndrome” denotes that a number of traits and dispositions associated with conservatism are correlated with each other.
The new study, published in Personality and Individual Differences, suggests that the “conservative syndrome” is associated with lower intelligence, and religiosity is only a part of it.
That is alright, I am sure they dont account for mentally unwell right wingers that do NOT seek help. :)
Mine will.
Oh man, you're going to have so many studies coming your way.
Say that in the debate, I am ready for everything
You can bring up anecdotes all you want and extremes. We're simply talking about the average.
"Why are all Islamic Terrorists practically Fascist and far-right in outlook?"
you must not know of the Ba'athist ideology.
Buddy this debate has me riled up. I am also riled up as I lost a lot recently.
15k characters.
Expect every k used.
Why are all suicidal mass shooters right-wing nutjobs?
Why are all Islamic Terrorists practically Fascist and far-right in outlook?
Why is it that your typical obese person in any nation is voting the conservative party?
Which wing is against taxing and/or banning dangerously unhealty food ingredients?
Do you want it? or do you agree with me?
edited. Leftists in the west are soy asf.
Pretty sure almost all individuals in China are left-leaning. I haven't looked up statistics, it is just something I think could be brought up.