Minimum wage is a bad thing, it should not be raised, and it should be abolished.

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Thus far neither side is winning. While both cited sources, both also did not explain the methodology of the sources, why the sources make credible arguments, or even summarize any key points by the sources.

Citing NELP, for instance, can be spurious because they are an organization that, according to their website, are working to raise the minimum wage, so without explaining their methodology or anything about the report, that is basically like stating "here's a biased source in my favor."

Yes, NELP could have solid methodology and such, but without explaining it, or even citing the applicable part of the study, PRO does not actually have to debunk the claim.

The same is true with PRO, who cited a CBO link on the minimum wage. While the CBO is generally a significantly more credible organization than NELP, that does not mean the source:

1. Actually proved anything PRO stated on minimum wage, because he did nor cite any portion of the paper in question or even why it is relatable.

2. Actually had good methodology.

Additionally, at least in my opinion, the CBO tends to be partisan to whichever party is in control. Which could prove spurious to an argument about a public policy.

Yes. I admit this is the genetic fallacy to a degree. But without explaining why it is or is not the genetic fallacy, then the other party does not actually have to respond to the sourcing. They can just claim "xxx failed to prove how that source supported his case. The burden of proof is on xxx."

Increasing consumer power doesnt make up for the increased cost of labor.
Case 1) If you have 4 dollars, and you pay a worker 2 dollars and he gives you back those 2 dollars through consumer spending, you still have just 4 dollars.
Case 2) Same if you pay a worker 4 dollars. He returns them to you through spending, and you still have 4 dollars.

Difference between these two cases is that in case 1) you have to pay 2 dollars to the worker every time.
In case 2), you have to pay 4 dollars every time. This makes it more expensive to hire workers.

Yes, I agree. Minimum wage is not the magic solution that will fix everything. In fact, its not a good solution at all due to the problems it causes. Applying it to areas with high unemployment would devastate small buisnesses and we would have to rely on big companies to cover that.

It does increase the wealth of the workers- if it doesn’t kill your job or your job opportunities. Most minimum wage workers are below 25 years old, probably still in college, never worked much - minimum wage harms them. Dollars are not unlimited, eventually we are going to run out and print more.

Raising the wage does work to increase the wealth of the workers if there isnt enough money circulating in the economy to allow raising prices. If there isnt too much money being printed, its certain that raising minimum wage cannot result in increase of prices enough to negate it.

However, it does decrease profits, make buisnesses more expensive, workers less desirable...ect.