Instigator / Con

Mall

1476

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336

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40.77%

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Topic

#3754

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Finished

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Winner

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

Novice_II

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Publication date: 09.17.2022 05:41PM
Last updated date: 10.20.2022 10:03AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 2
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 20,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

Contender / Pro

Novice_II

1890

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93.37%

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Disclaimer : Regardless of the setup for voting win or lose, The aim of this interaction, Is for those that view it, Learn and or take away anything that will amount to any constructive value ultimately. So that counts as anything that'll cause one to reconsider an idea, Understand a subject better, Help build a greater wealth of knowledge getting closer to truth. When either of us has accomplished that with any individual here, That's who the victor of the debate becomes.

Here's a chance for you to design the platform based on your topic selection.
We'll obviously have opposing sides.

Whatever topic you choose of course, it'll fit whichever side it falls on for you in tandem with the position preset .

***THE TOPICS CANNOT BE DUPLICATE. IT'S AN AUTOMATIC FORFEITING IF THR SAME TOPIC IS CHOSEN***

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Round 1

Mall

09.17.2022 05:53PM

Con

Here's a chance for you to design the platform based on your topic selection.

We'll obviously have opposing sides.

Whatever topic you choose of course, it'll fit whichever side it falls on for you in tandem with the position preset .

***THE TOPICS CANNOT BE DUPLICATE. IT'S AN AUTOMATIC FORFEITING IF THE SAME TOPIC IS CHOSEN***

Questions and concerns, leave a comment or send a message.

Novice_II

09.18.2022 12:20AM

Pro

The topic is "THBT racial segregation in public schools should be illegal."

Round 2

Mall

09.18.2022 07:43PM

Con

I'm going to reapply this as it's a universal formula and setup for the foundation of constituting "should". That is what should be and should not be based on just natural law, let alone man made law and personal opinion.

Following that which is the cause or purpose connects the two.

Presenting this example again and for those concerned about SOURCES, pay attention. My inhaling these fatal toxic fumes , I should be dead. The effect following the cause logical follows and necessitates.

The United States once more has a government called the United States government or affectionately "Uncle Sam".

This government has democracy to vote in elected officials to orchestrate the legality process. This government has democracy which in turn via those elected parties or directly through petition, vote in on laws.

There's a whole legislature, congress to pass or veto laws.

Whatever laws that are passed by the United States government should in fact be legal.

That's just simply what it would mean.

Something shouldn't be illegal and that thing is legally passed. It doesn't compute. These are opposite.

The laws put in effect via congressional, legislative, political arenas, that process ,the cause should be legally in effect as that what it means to put them in effect.

A vote, a pass on a law should be a legalized law because it would of meant the government has passed it.

Any law passed, Jim Crow, segregation, purge, sundown towns, whatever, should be legal because something happened called the "passing of that law".

Novice_II

09.20.2022 10:03AM

Pro

We are not debating whether or not a law should be illegal, we are debating whether or not passing laws segregation should be illegal. Regardless segregation should in fact be illegal because they violate the civil rights act. In addition, people are endowed with the rights of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness which segregation in public schools would violate. I don't see any argument from Mall against the resolution.
You can legally pass something that should be illegal, but we are debating whether or not this should be legal, not whether making laws should be legal. Mall has thus not made a case for his position.

Novice_II

10.20.2022 01:35AM

8 hours left at this time.

whiteflame

10.20.2022 12:00AM

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@Mall

@Novice_II

@Ehyeh

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>Reported Vote: Ehyeh // Mod action: Removed
>Voting Policy: info.debateart.com/terms-of-service/voting-policy
>Points Awarded: 1 points to Pro
>Reason for Decision:
"You can legally pass something that should be illegal, but we are debating whether or not this should be legal, not whether making laws should be legal. Mall has thus not made a case for his position."
>Reason for Mod Action:
This isn’t an RFD, just a direct quote of Pro’s final round. That is not sufficient.
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Novice_II

10.19.2022 06:00PM

Votes are still needed.

Novice_II

10.19.2022 04:56AM

Vote needed here, 1 day left.

ILikePie5

10.20.2022 02:31AM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Another easy vote. Pro wins.

S/G: I award this to Pro. Their sentences made sense and were easy to ready grammatically and structurally. Con on the other hand had run-on sentences everywhere. There were many fragments as well like in the body of the argument.

Conduct: I am giving this to Pro since Con basically plagiarized what they said in another debate into here.

Sources: I am going to give this to Pro because they provided a source unlike Con. The source is the Civil Rights Act, which specially makes racial discrimination illegal, which helps Pro’s case

Arguments: This one goes to Pro as well. The S/G by Con really makes it hard to understand their argument. My understanding is that Con makes an argument that Jim Crow was a law and therefore it should be legal. However, this is refuted by Pro because he shows the Civil Rights Act banned the discrimination perpetrated by Jim Crow Laws. Pro has fulfilled their obligation also by highlighting the fundamental rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

Pro wins.