"I'm going to take a different approach than my opponent. Rather than constructing my argument on the basis of cherrypicked, out of context verses,"
I believe scriptures are in their contexts and adding theology to them add to the scriptures which is in violation of Proverbs 30.
"I would like to explore some more comprehensive theological argument."
Now if your theology won't contradict scripture, I'm going to solely go over the scripture you bring and see how you harmonize it with mine.
Less there be contradiction.
"This is what it means to grow in grace."
Understand what I'm saying. When I say "growing in grace" . I'm referring to those who still sin going on in Jesus name.
Those are the same ones that say they're growing in grace.
I get it, you have your own understanding but let us understand each other avoiding the misrepresentation.
"Then what do I need Christ for? I will have already lived a perfect life and will achieve salvation of the basis of works. Which is of course false teaching. "
Let me help you understand.
Whoever is born of God cannot sin. That's the book. How would you have already lived a perfect life(no sin) without being born of God?
You have to be born again to be perfect, to be Holy and without sin. As the scripture just laid out in 1 John 3.
It just stated whosever is born....... cannot, cannot sin.
Don't go passed the book, stay in the book.
"I would actually like to use this verse provided by my opponent in order to highlight the flaws in his eisegesis. This is a clear example of my opponent cherrypicking verses and pulling them from context. "
I'm reading the scripture for exactly what it says.
"Earlier in the very same book, only a few lines before the verse that my opponent offers, John writes this: "If we say we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." 1 John 1:8-2:1."
Amen and Amen. There's no contradiction. Saying you don't sin doesn't mean you never have before.
The scripture says "and such WERE some of you". What do you think a new creature is?
This is what the book of Romans is getting into.
"they are washed clean of their sin, but sinful desires will always be present. "
But will they sin once born of the Spirit, born of God?
The scripture says who is born of God CANNOT sin.
Cannot enter the kingdom unless born of the water and of the SPIRIT.
Now you brought up Romans 7 so let us follow that up with the next chapter because it's going to become full circle.
There comes a time where you have to repent. To continue a sin over and over is not repenting.
Continuing in the book of Romans, starting at verse one.
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
Those in Christ will walk after the Spirit. As we read in chapter 8, having the Spirit enables them to do so.
"2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."
Ok so not bonded or a slave to sin as you are free from it. Speaks back to Romans 6 being free of sin enables to be free to serve God, serve holiness being a vessel of therefore .
Being dead to sin, how can I sin still paraphrasing from Romans chapter 6?
The Spirit you're walking after is Holy meaning no sin. So why would a Holy Spirit filled person not be Holy?
There'd be no sin. Which makes it biblical, in context by the way , that there is no committing of sin being born of God, born of the Spirit.
What is so hard to follow about all of this?
It surely and verily and verily I say gets repetitive in scripture.
So let's look at the scripture you gave, seventh chapter of the book of Romans.
You want to talk about being in context and then you isolate the chapter from the surrounding chapters.
The chapter before makes a point about being dead to sin, next makes the point about where sin comes from which is the law of sin. The chapter after follows concluding to be freed from the law of sin .
So there's no encouragement that we have this law to be bound so we're stuck with sinning .
There's a present condition with all of us. That condition transitions from the old to the new creature as we read about in Ephesians.
"To conclude my first argument, I would like to reiterate the fact that the whole point of the religion is that Christ lived the perfect life that we never can. "
Absolutely not biblical. You go in the scripture but you don't go far enough.
You went to 2 Peter 3 but go back a book. See , you're projecting something on me from which you're doing which is cherry picking.
"14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:"
Former lusts, that would be no more. Not lusting every now and then .
"15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. "
"48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
So you're saying we can't be something that the scripture is directing us to be.
Again, it ties back to Romans 6 which I'll point out from that was initially done in round one.
"Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ."
Chapter 4 of Ephesians here nor 2 Peter 3 states to continue on in sin. Why?
It'd contradict Romans 6.
Let me replay Romans 6 again.
"Contrary to my opponents heretical claims, it is not possible for anyone, even believers, to live lives devoid of sin. In order to make any claim to the contrary, you must declare Christ a liar and in so doing condemn yourself through your own self-deceit."
Yes let me instant replay that. My people are destroyed from a lack of knowledge.
Become aware of this if it was just glossed over in round one.
"19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness."
That's unto holiness (no sin period).
"22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life."
The end result of a holy life is eternal life.
Let me ask you, how can you be Holy and still sin every now and then?
Is that holiness?
You have to be in holiness to see the Lord.
If I'm Holy as my Father is Holy and I still sin, my Father Almighty righteous God sins.
I'm only following an example. That would be true according to this falsehood you perhaps believe in.
You better come back to your scripture.