Instigator / Pro
4
1502
rating
41
debates
35.37%
won
Topic
#3871

NSDA Point format vs DART 7 point format

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
1

After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
4,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1709
rating
565
debates
68.23%
won
Description

Pro will argue NSDA (national speech and debate) format is better than current dart format: 40% content, 40% style, and 20% strategy. https://medium.com/@ronbratt1/how-are-debates-scored-11808ac9f7e7

Con will argue the 7 point format is a preferable voting standard to determine a winner for the debate.

I think based on current setup, dart equivalent would be 3 arg 2 sources = 70% content, 1 conduct 1 s&g for 20% style, and strategy is worth 0%.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Ultimately, con was able to cast serious doubt upon the resolution with the example of how someone would be awarded victory when being grossly off topic (which was a direct reply to pro's talk of strategy and style); and the assertion that strategy is already part of how arguments are structured which I saw no reason to doubt.

Pro for his part did well, particularly with the example of how someone can be so rude they make an opponent leave the site. However, the fear of a bad debater, does not outweigh the fear of judges deciding who wins even more arbitrarily than they already do (such as the appeal to how wonderful horses and donkeys are, winning in a debate about space travel).

Further, pro has the primary burden of proof, which means his case fails when things are in doubt.