"The Bible contradicts itself repeatedly, so no surprise there.*
Is this the best you got?
The Bible is supporting my position, not yours in other words.
I have Bible that says what God is, you on the other hand do not.
Why not just concede that? No harm in that.
"Anyway, there’s nothing in the rules that says God can’t be both a person and a spirit. He is The Lord, he can be whoever he wants to be. "
This is too funny . Really, you just opened up a bunch of questions and they're mainly centered around your understanding.
This is the best you got. By your response, you indirectly saying this debate is a draw.
If that's what you want to settle with, we can talk about it.
Another thing that's funny is your backpedaling. First you mention contradiction, then you say that pretty much the Lord can be both spirit and a person effectively saying spirit and person don't contradict but are the same, one in the same.
I don't think you were prepared for this topic. I can tell by your ad hoc arguments seeing what sticks .
What is the difference between a spirit and a person?
Why not save all this trouble by just providing a scripture saying as written that the Lord is both spirit and a person?
You haven't provided one for God being a person.
All I have is what you, you , you , you are saying.
Give Bible for this.
"I have given you four verses proving God is a person and you dare question the accuracy of his Written Word. This is blasphemy. "
What "written word"?
I'm asking you where the words are written that God is a person like I provided scripture God is a spirit.
"Pure and simple."
Is it not pure and simple what I'm asking for?
Do you not get this from the start of this topic?
Let's look at this again.
"Pretty straightforward to prove from the biblical scriptures as written, that the Father is a person"
Key terms *as written*.
Find scripture that it is written that the "Father is a person ".
Just like if you were to ask me to find where something is written , if it ain't written, I just come out honest and say it's not .
Do you have scripture that says God is in persons, in every person everywhere making them God?
If the scripture actually said this, there would be so much conflict and convolution with the gospel which is about salvation.
I mean God is Holy but are all persons holy?
That's another contradiction on your side. God knows the end from the beginning. All persons do not. Another contradiction on your part.
Based on what you are trying to argue, you're making the contradictions, not the scriptures.
"(Romans 1:20) His invisible qualities can clearly be seen, so he’s not invisible really. The adjective ‘invisible’ is an adjective. You atheists keep taking things OUT of context. "
Don't be a hypocrite. Let's read the WHOLE verse which would be keeping in context.
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"
It reads ""For the invisible things of him".
What invisible things? See, something can't be invisible and visible at the same time. You have to rightly divide the word of truth, so what invisible things?
Don't add to the scripture by claiming it said God is visible when we just learned in 1 Timothy 1 God is invisible. It didn't say God is invisible and is clearly seen, it read the "invisible things".
Whatever these things are, they are understood by the things that have been made. Things that are made have a beginning like the creation of the world as the verse mentions. Those things are not eternal such as God that has eternal power and is not visible. But it's understood that these things that were made and are visible, we can witness, observe or see the power there that made these things. We can clearly see the immaterial, non physical power that made these things from the creation of the world.
You have to rightly divide and unpack this because questions come up, how do you see the invisible, how is invisibility yet still visible to us ? It's invisible.
You just added to the scripture and contradicted it.
But line upon line, precept among precept, you can understand.
So to put among what Romans 1 stated, we have this passage in Hebrews 11 as well to go with it.
In verse 3:
"By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible."
There's the thing about understanding again in this verse and the world. It concludes with it being setup , made from what is not visible, not made from what is visible. See how the conclusion you came to doesn't line up.
Line up scripture with scripture. The "word " is another invisible trait of God. We understand the things we see are made by what is unseen using non visible things . We can understand and see all of this. It's like a pun with the term "see" or "seen" but really there's a difference in the meaning of the term. There's a distinction between seeing physically and seeing by understanding. Just like when people say "Oh I see, oh I get it, I understand".
"By faith we understand that the universe was ordered by the word of God, so that what is visible came into being through the invisible."
God invisible in nature unlike a person that is visible.
That's why there was someone that had the express image of God.
Back to Hebrews again, chapter 1 going to verse 3.
" Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high".
We read "word" and "power" again. A constant theme here regarding the nature of God, things of God.
Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses, every word to be established, we have another witness from the book of Colossians.
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature".
That is the breakdown for you .
Now unless you have scripture that reads the Father is a person, case is closed of all things considered.