Instigator / Con
3
1677
rating
24
debates
93.75%
won
Topic
#4317

On balance, Turkey’s continued membership is beneficial to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
3
0

After 3 votes and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

blamonkey
Judges
Tejretics's avatar
Tejretics
7 debates / 22 votes
No vote
Barney's avatar
Barney
50 debates / 1,281 votes
Voted
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
27 debates / 195 votes
Voted
WeaverofFate's avatar
WeaverofFate
4 debates / 10 votes
Voted
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Judges
Contender / Pro
0
1709
rating
564
debates
68.17%
won
Description

To make this a three round debate, I will waive my first round and allow Pro to go first. Pro should waive their last round. That way, we both have 3 speeches.

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@Sir.Lancelot

Thanks!

Nice job, blamonkey.

I’m really sorry, but my fever just acted up again, and it’s unlikely I‘ll be able to vote on this one. Looks like you already have three excellent votes, and I’ll make it up at the final.

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@Tejretics

Oh no! Im sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better.

If you cant cast a vote thats ok.

I’m sorry for the delay! I actually did fall unwell last week, but I will do my best to vote on this in the next 7 hours.

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@whiteflame

Thanks for the vote!

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@RationalMadman

You're leaving the site? How come?

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@RationalMadman

I meant to say good debate. I was just super tired last night and forgot. I promise that was not a slight against you or the way you debate.

If this is really your last debate here, I'll miss you.

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@blamonkey

I can tell as you never said 'good debate', or more than the bare minimum of manners that you didn't like how I debated this and that you don't think much of me.

That is okay.

It was an honour for your debate to be the one that truly defeated me prior to my departure here. You are truly the greatest debating mind I have ever come across, you aren't just structure and training, you're true talent and blistering-effort research. Try to debate more often, you're the one who can take the entire top 5 ranked users in a 6-person free-for-all and string up their bodies by the end of it.

Try to venture into weirder topics, not for bragging rights but to truly freeflow it. Nobody will know what that feels like except perhaps lancelot and now you. You need to experience it, the rush of creatively pushing, pulling, striking, blocking and maneuvring in an arena you're uncomfortable with and that isn't something pure research alone can carry.

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@WeaverofFate

Thanks for the vote!

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@RationalMadman

It was really close, you could have clinched it by focusing on the Greece point for sure. You did great especially considering the time constraints you had due to life.

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@WeaverofFate

I haven't seen the rfd yet but thanks for voting, blamonkey is one of the single toughest people to beat on this site on geopolitical stuff. All three topics were a problem for me in this Round.

Will be voting on this on Tuesday!

I’ll work on this, might be a few days.

I will be voting on this today or tomorrow

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@Tejretics
@blamonkey
@Barney
@whiteflame
@WeaverofFate

"Let's not pretend that T's willingness to trade heartily with the EU on discounted tariffs is also due to its NATO ties."

I meant is not, not is. I even reread Round 3 before posting. This is a real shame... in Round 1 I make that stance clear though.

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@Tejretics
@Barney
@whiteflame
@WeaverofFate

The Round 3 of Pro is up already, I can stall my last-round waiving to give you extra time to come up with a vote if this is necessary for a particular voter. I want all four to vote please.

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@blamonkey

Idk how the voters will interpret BoP here. Good effort, may the best debater win.

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@RationalMadman

Take your time! Also, if at any point you want to redo this when you have more time outside the tourney, let me know.

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@blamonkey

good round, fantastic speed and all that but I must stall again. It's gonna take time to do the Round 2 for me.

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@RationalMadman

That's an pretty good idea. Thanks! :)

blamonkey

No but you should hyperlink words or numbers inside it at the very least. You have to at least refer to the sources at times but you do that anyway.

My point is if you have 12 sources, make all of them referred to in text somehow then I can't say shit. Like hyperlink in text or number inside text and hyperlink the number.

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@RationalMadman

Cool! Sorry that IRL stuff got in the way. Do you mind if my sources go in the comments? If not, that's cool.

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@blamonkey

Real life has really gotten in the way in both a sense of how tired I am and how busy I am, I will pump something out on time hopefully but it's actually a good thing you pushed it later.

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@Barney

We had to get it going and it benefits him to force me to do that in Round 1. It is fine, there is not much room in this for Con to abuse semantics and only 3 key definitions need to be given (membership is intuitively defined).

I advise adding some basics into the description, to avoid it all having to be explained inside the debate.