Instigator / Pro
35
1482
rating
24
debates
41.67%
won
Topic
#4493

There are only two genders

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
15
6
Better sources
10
8
Better legibility
5
4
Better conduct
5
1

After 5 votes and with 16 points ahead, the winner is...

Devon
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
19
1500
rating
2
debates
25.0%
won
Description

No information

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Con forfeited first 60% of debate. PRO gets the full forfeit.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Even while I agree with con (save in there being only one sex), they presented their argument as a final round blitz which could not be responded to.

beyond that, neither did particularly good, merely asserting their opinions.still , pro sitting there unchallenged for so long makes them win by default.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

> 40% ff by Con

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Devon,
Makes assertions until,
"You can't identify as something you are not.
If you were born male you cannot say you are a female,
you were not born with a uterus and you are unable to give birth."

From a certain point of view, occurs to me, I suppose.,
But of course, people often prefer, certain points of view,
Or 'specifically refer to a point of view, even if they know other points of view exist,
They 'prefer valuing a certain point of view.

A person 'can say they are female,
Other's may not agree, or treat them that way though,
And outcomes may result, that would not have if they had been biologically female,
That other's do not prefer said point of view,
Sports for instance, the differences between natural born men and women.
. .
Or society 'might agree,
'Some societies,
Course societies can say true, false, or in between statements.

Eh, some women can't have kids.

napzu,
Makes argument that definitions of words change,
Which is fair,
But they would have made a better argument by examples of gender/sex in history.
Also arguably that a person's social definition, personage,
Doesn't change their biology so much.
Well, eunuchs had some body changes.

napzu makes an assertion in round 5 though,
Rather than argument in my view.

My Vote,
I don't think either side really put forth enough argument of rounds into this debate to get argument or conduct points,
No sources, no grammar bad enough on either side to add or remove points.

Debate 'Topic is a bit fragmented as,
People argue whether Sex and Gender is the same word,
Whether an individual 'can change their Sex,
Whether gender, in the social constructs definition, is meaningful.

Debate could be improved by agreed upon definitions and ideas in the introduction,
Baseline Give Ins, Assumptions, Some type of base on which to construct arguments,
Part of debate was disagreeing on base ideas.
. . .

Not that one 'can't disagree on base ideas in a debate,
But I think 'this debate would have been better off saying there are only two sexes,
'Unless the instigator 'also wanted to argue whether sex and gender are the same,
Which I 'assume, but do not know, that they did not.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro made a strong argument at the beginning but did not make a good ending argument while Con did the opposite. since Neither used links nor made persuasive arguments. However since Con forfeited 80% of the debate, my vote goes to Pro on the better argument. However, neither get a vote on sources since none provided anything in that regard. Pro also gets a better conduct vote because Con did not debate until the end and gave no room for the debate to develop while Pro at least offered a starting argument. Overall both sides could have done better in this debate but in my view, Pro wins due to Con's continued forfeit's.