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0
1500
rating
1
debates
0.0%
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Topic
#4770

Women can't tell what toxic masculinity is.

Status
Finished

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Winner
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1

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

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Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
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Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
1
1516
rating
20
debates
87.5%
won
Description

Ever since the rise of TikTok (imo) there has been an ongoing war between men vs women, even before the rise of Andrew Tate and all the things that came after it. I usually prefer to keep my ears away from it because I just whoever is willing to fight against another gender is just dumb and wasting their time. I personally like talking about both genders and what they both do wrong or right, i just find it stupid to pick a side and run with it by discriminating and putting the other gender in a stereotype AKA all women are this and all men are this.

But what gets under my skin is the rise of the word "toxic masculinity". And no, not "you are toxic" or "this is toxic" but what i mean is a female saying, "You have toxic masculinity".

My whole argument is if you are a female then you don't know nor have a say on whether someone has toxic masculinity or not. I once said that guys shouldn't make it a habit of asking people for help or opening up, the key word is habit, and I was told that was toxic masculinity. The reason i said that was because if you make it a habit to get help in problem solving then once life gives you something that no one can help you on you will not have the skin to solve problems. I'm a guy and yes i do talk to my friends about my situations at times but i refuse to make it a habit. People can open up for time to time, just not ALL THE TIME. But they didn't even hear me cause they thought I am influence by this new wave of internet idiots. Guys understood what I meant and said I was right but can't say the same for women.

My debate is that if you are a women then you can't tell a guy he has toxic masculinity, only guys can know whether another guy's masculinity is positive or not. Same goes vise versa, men can't tell a women how to be a women or if they are a women or not because they aren't women themselves. I'm a boxer and heard some guy say that he's daughter is also a boxer but he fights to make sure she keeps her femininity, I don't wish to argue with someone on how to raise their daughter but my belief is a man can question another man's masculinity because he himself is masculine and a woman can question another woman's femininity because her herself is feminine.

Round 1
Pro
#1
Forfeited
Con
#2
Toxic masculinity includes:

  1. Toughness: This is the notion that men should be physically strong, emotionally callous, and behaviorally aggressive.
  2. Antifeminity: This involves the idea that men should reject anything that is considered to be feminine, such as showing emotion or accepting help.
  3. Power: This is the assumption that men must work toward obtaining power and status (social and financial) so they can gain the respect of others.


Women can easily tell if a man is trying to not talk to any women, and continue hitting the gym based on social media profiles.

QED

Round 2
Pro
#3
Forfeited
Con
#4
another ff bites the dust
Round 3
Pro
#5
Forfeited
Con
#6
yes they can
Round 4
Pro
#7
Forfeited
Con
#8
eee
Round 5
Pro
#9
Forfeited
Con
#10
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