Instigator / Pro
5
1484
rating
12
debates
25.0%
won
Topic
#4864

jerking off is gay

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
3
Better sources
2
4
Better legibility
0
2
Better conduct
0
2

After 2 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

Average_Person
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Rated
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Minimal rating
None
Contender / Con
11
1516
rating
21
debates
88.1%
won
Description

youre touching your own dick to get yourself hard. that is gay. you lose

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Legibility: Too many missing or incorrect punctuation marks, and missing capitalization.
Conduct: Pro forfeiture a round, and needlessly went into ad hominem attacks (insulting con's intellect for not agreeing with him).

Arguments:
Pro implies a syllogism of if you like to stroke dicks, you're a homosexual man; therefore those who stroke at least one, are homosexual men. This is very simplistic but a mildly entertaining bit of humor.

Con pulls a definition, and declares that you must be attracted to other people in order to be gay (which was not within the definition). Pro counters this with the act of stroking a dick is implying sexual attraction to it. Con insists you must be attracted to people plural. ... This continues back and forth, without any evolution.

Regarding the accusation of strawmanning I don't buy it. Pro repeated the same weak argument he had been making, without twisting anything about con's which is needed for the fallacy to occur. Pro defended that merely calling something a strawman is not in itself a sensible argument related to the resolution.

While pro could have done a much better job (for example, show monogamous people as still being sexually attracted to each other, to prove that attraction to one person can define sexual preferences), I understand his (weak) case.
Con likewise could have done much better (show that most people are classified as straight in spite jacking off, so even if doing a gay activity they are at most bi), with his case resting on a single definition which leaves it ambiguous along with calling pro's case a strawman of his own case.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pros argument makes no sense