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Topic
#5001

Abortion is always good

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Finished

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After not so many votes...

It's a tie!
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Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
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1476
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debates
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Round 1
Pro
#1
It is always good, because life is bad and abortion destroys whats bad.
Con
#2
Are you saying no life anywhere at all, the non existence of anything is good?

You say life is bad, so no existence of it all is good. Is that right?
Round 2
Pro
#3
Yeah, it would be good if there was no life.
Con
#4
"Yeah, it would be good if there was no life."

Wrong.


Being that there is no life whatsoever, there's nothing that constitutes what is good for any life to construct it.



Life doesn't exist . So teleologically good wouldn't either. There would be no such thing.  The nature of good is not pre-existent. Good is identified by what's already there to give it meaning and application. 

Even the good book no pun intended says man was created and everything that was created or made was good. It's the same thing with that point about peace you tried to make. 

You have to realize that the foundation of everything that exists, how it branches and extends by application.

Don't just look at good on the level as a lack of harm or suffering or simply a lack thereof. You get too broad with the word "lack" , you end up lacking the entire nature and constitution of good itself.

Therefore abortion (no life) being always good is invalid. 

No life, that's what you said. 
Round 3
Pro
#5
There doesnt need to be anything to create good, since good is lack of pain and lack of pain exists when life doesnt.
Con
#6
"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"

I'm going to instant replay this.

"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"

"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"

"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"

I don't know if you're just distracted, short on time but it seems lately you're not making an effort on arguing. I corrected you on the point of peace existing where nothing exists at all and explaining how that's fallacious. You're doing the same thing with "good".

"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"

How do you get "good" if nothing is creating it?

Are we realizing how no sense is made here?

"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"

So "good" isn't a thing. It isn't a thing so that means it doesn't exist.  You refute your position again.
If there's nothing, nothing can be called good.

You say abortion is always good. Abortion eliminates life. Being you say it's all good, keep it going to the point where there's nothing. How's it good , abortion that is when it eliminates what would be good, continues to eliminate to the point that all is eliminated, good is eliminated with it?

You've walked into a paradox.


Each life can amount to goodness, can identify goodness and where goodness can only exist. Each life you extinguish you eliminate the good along with it.

Nothing, no existence of anything would include goodness.

Now you can redefine the term as a lack of anything to include pain.
You've walked into a paradox.

When you say aborting a life is good or aborting a life is no pain, that's not true. I have pain knowing when a life is aborted. Mothers experience pain not necessarily just during the abortion process but regret that is there is painful. Not to mention the life itself experiences pain when aborted.

ABORTION SURVIVORS experience pain thinking about the failed attempt at them being terminated. Many of them carry long term medical conditions from the attempt.

So the point about being no pain with abortion always, that point is no good no pun intended . But it is invalid.

The point of abortion always being good is invalid. A more possible position to argue for is abortion being good in some cases.

***Proofread***
But the whole world doesn't agree with abortion and what good means to some is not to others. In the case of the opposing side it's good. They're speaking for themselves. This isn't objective and therefore not an objective truth worthy to debate over. 

You believe what you believe while not proving what is absolutely true. True for you, not for me, where is the resolution?

Something that's true across the board that isn't but is claimed to be with the word "always" by personal view.

I'm finished.