"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"
I'm going to instant replay this.
"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"
"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"
"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"
I don't know if you're just distracted, short on time but it seems lately you're not making an effort on arguing. I corrected you on the point of peace existing where nothing exists at all and explaining how that's fallacious. You're doing the same thing with "good".
"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"
How do you get "good" if nothing is creating it?
Are we realizing how no sense is made here?
"There doesnt need to be anything to create good"
So "good" isn't a thing. It isn't a thing so that means it doesn't exist. You refute your position again.
If there's nothing, nothing can be called good.
You say abortion is always good. Abortion eliminates life. Being you say it's all good, keep it going to the point where there's nothing. How's it good , abortion that is when it eliminates what would be good, continues to eliminate to the point that all is eliminated, good is eliminated with it?
You've walked into a paradox.
Each life can amount to goodness, can identify goodness and where goodness can only exist. Each life you extinguish you eliminate the good along with it.
Nothing, no existence of anything would include goodness.
Now you can redefine the term as a lack of anything to include pain.
You've walked into a paradox.
When you say aborting a life is good or aborting a life is no pain, that's not true. I have pain knowing when a life is aborted. Mothers experience pain not necessarily just during the abortion process but regret that is there is painful. Not to mention the life itself experiences pain when aborted.
ABORTION SURVIVORS experience pain thinking about the failed attempt at them being terminated. Many of them carry long term medical conditions from the attempt.
So the point about being no pain with abortion always, that point is no good no pun intended . But it is invalid.
The point of abortion always being good is invalid. A more possible position to argue for is abortion being good in some cases.
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But the whole world doesn't agree with abortion and what good means to some is not to others. In the case of the opposing side it's good. They're speaking for themselves. This isn't objective and therefore not an objective truth worthy to debate over.
You believe what you believe while not proving what is absolutely true. True for you, not for me, where is the resolution?
Something that's true across the board that isn't but is claimed to be with the word "always" by personal view.
I'm finished.
Always always always