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Topic
#5023
Atheism is the best religion
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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
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After not so many votes...
It's a tie!
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Round 1
Its the best because you are free to worship whoever you want in atheism. There is no specific set of Gods you have to worship. You can even pretend that you worship Jesus to fool Christians. So its cool, yeah.
Another great argument I can think of is that in atheism, there is more freedom because there is no God to tell you what to do and what not to do.
1: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices2 a(1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural(2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observanceb: the state of a religious3: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith4 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
1: relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity2: of, relating to, or devoted to religious beliefs or observances3a: scrupulously and conscientiously faithful
By definition, "Atheism" devotes to nothing, so atheism is not a religion, thus the topic is proven false.
Round 2
Thats obviously wrong.
You can worship Lucifer and still be an atheist.
You can worship Lucifer and still be an atheist.
Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer, the name of various mythological and religious figures associated with the planet Venus. The tradition usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a destroyer, a guardian, liberator,[1] light bringer or guiding spirit to darkness,[2] or even the true god.[1]
How?
Also, this would be akin to saying:
Teacher: The movie industry is run by bureaucrats and very corrupt.Student: What? My father works at hollywood and he is not corrupt at all.
By just giving a counterexample of what could be atheism, does not fundamentally change the fact that atheism is not a belief system revolved around something supernatural, but a set of beliefs regarding the lack thereof. By definition, Atheism is not a religion, I rest my case.
Round 3
But you can be an atheist and summon demons because demons are not Gods.
But you can be an atheist and summon demons because demons are not Gods.
By that means we are essentially calling Judaism a non-religion for that they are worshipping YHWH, not "God". Muslims worship "Allah", just to give another example.
Changing the name does not alter the fact that demons are still nevertheless supernatural, and so-called "Satanism" would still be a religion revolved around a supernatural being that isn't God but nevertheless supernatural anyways.
This is on top of that "Summoning demons" does not require faith, unlike "summoning Jesus's voice".
Although a "non-credible" source, it has been verified by internet users suggesting that yes, people generally accept that the practices shown here are known as "summoning the demon". Inspecting the steps makes you find out that no, it only requires you to find wack stuff around your house and whack it a bunch while thinking about it(just like you'd need to think about the leap of faith in a 10m diving contest), but never the requirement that you are of any denomination of paganism, that you need to be devoted pre-ritual.
And no, just thinking something exists doesn't equate to being religious. An atheist could simply try to imagine that a demon indeed exists and follow the steps only to find out nothing appears, it does not contradict the fact that summoning a demon doesn't make one religious and that atheism doesn't involve religion by definition.
That is all I need to say, any more and I'd be repeating my own points. See ya, I guess?
Oh well.
Well, are there any voters left on this site?
Thank you. I do try, its not all good looks and lazyness.
It is really funny that the topic of the discussion initially contains a logical error, because the teaching that opposes itself to the very concept of religion is called religion
This needs votes!
Thats funny, but voters should probably not take comments into consideration.
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