# Math is an art and is not a science

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I am taking the position that math is an art, and that math is not a science. We will use the following definitions:

Math - The discipline studying numbers and their operations, interrelations, combinations, generalizations, and abstractions and of space configurations and their structure, measurement, transformations, and generalizations.

Art - The conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects.

Science - The systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.

- https://artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php/AMC_12_Problems_and_Solutions
- https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ750778.pdf
- https://www.math.brown.edu/reschwar/INF/handout3.pdf
- https://www.britannica.com/science/Euclidean-geometry
- https://www.quantamagazine.org/why-mathematicians-still-cant-solve-the-collatz-conjecture-20200922/

Oxford1.the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained."the world of science and technology"Similar:branch of knowledgearea of studydisciplinefield2.ARCHAICknowledge of any kind."his rare science and his practical skill"

I am taking the position that math is an art, and that math is not a science. We will use the following definitions:Math - The discipline studying numbers and their operations, interrelations, combinations, generalizations, and abstractions and of space configurations and their structure, measurement, transformations, and generalizations.Art - The conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects.Science - The systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.

Numbers themselves are abstractions, yes. But in most cases, barring complex theoretical maths, the abstractions are standing for physical quantities. Regardless of the point of abstract versus physical in nature, math is a study, a knowledge.

The umbrella term of science holds math within a "branch of knowledge", "area of study." Math is indisputably a knowledge of sorts, and thus is within the term science.

I will agree that math, especially at high levels is very artful, and deserves to be appreciated for the creativity necessary to perform innovations within the field.Yet I see no reason that science and art must be mutually exclusive.

Math, in my view is both science and art. To argue that math is not scientific in nature would be very dismissive of the study and understanding of mathematics. To argue that math is not artistic in nature would be dismissive of the creativity and beauty of the subject.Low level mathematics may be considered more scientific and rigid with no need for artistic thought, and some very high level maths could be considered much more artistic in nature, though they require the rigid science underneath to build upon creatively.

I would like to happily offer to win this debate against you, if you would happily accept my offer, I have very solid evidence and arguments of which are very simplistic and basic to understand.

Only one of my classmates are applying for a B.A in maths. Most others who intend a mathematic route are applying for B.S degrees.

Lot of geometry/math in Islamic art I've heard.

I 'think I recall Clausewitz mentions something about science and art, in his On War book.

Ooh, after Googling that a bit in variation, and reading the description in this debate, I'm interested in how this debate might go.

I don't think I've 'thought much about the concept of art.