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Topic
#5130

It is wrong to not tell children and or my children Santa Claus is not real.

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After not so many votes...

It's a tie!
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Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One day
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20,000
Voting period
One month
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Multiple criterions
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1328
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Disclaimer : Regardless of the setup for voting win or lose, The aim of this interaction, Is for those that view it, Learn and or take away anything that will amount to any constructive value ultimately. So that counts as anything that'll cause one to reconsider an idea, Understand a subject better, Help build a greater wealth of knowledge getting closer to truth. When either of us has accomplished that with any individual here, That's who the victor of the debate becomes.

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Round 1
Pro
#1
Thank you very much.

So because I do not condone dishonesty, I do not present lies, perpetuate lies nor give the impression of faulty truth, half truth or any thing that obviously maintains deception.

I do not look to institute another to be deceived deliberately. By fault or error is another case exceptional...

In terms of being facetious when the other party can understand or has a read on it is another exceptional circumstance.

Other than that, I do not support feeding falsehood, non truth to anybody. To anybody that is.

Also I'll add this. The teachings of religion or beliefs therein do not equate.

I know that Christmas is a hodgepodge of religious elements and commercialism that just makes a wreck of these themes.

Mixing worldly secular customs is just a non sequitur and an oxymoron.

Now my children are my children and I can instill any values in them I wish that will certainly have them to be law abiding citizens such as honesty.

It is not wrong to tell anyone something is not true because it is correct. For it to be correct to say something is true when it is not is a contradiction which would perpetuate the dishonesty.

I don't really have to extend this out on and on. Simple, direct and straightforward.

Only sensible argument someone can try to make against me is that it is no harm.

Ok I'll entertain it.

No harm in what?
Con
#2
The entire point of childhood is to believe in things that are not real. For example, as a kid, I used to believe that we live in capitalism. It was entertaining while it lasted. Wouldnt you say that childhood should be a time to enjoy life?
When you watch a movie, the movie is telling you about things that dont exist, such as superman. You could even say that movie lies, since bunch of lies are told in movies.
Round 2
Pro
#3
"The entire point of childhood is to believe in things that are not real. "

Can you prove that this is true? Can you prove no other point to being a child exists?

"For example, as a kid, I used to believe that we live in capitalism. "

I don't know what you mean by "believe " in this context. Capitalism exists .


" Wouldnt you say that childhood should be a time to enjoy life?"

Depends on how that enjoyment comes.
Some enjoy deceiving people at their expense causing non enjoyment to others. We have to be careful with what we're saying here.

"When you watch a movie, the movie is telling you about things that dont exist, such as superman. You could even say that movie lies, since bunch of lies are told in movies."

Ok this speaks to my point about being facetious. When you know something is meant to not be taken seriously, it's different than deception that appears as the truth.

You gotta do better than this.


Con
#4
Forfeited
Round 3
Pro
#5
I rest my case your honor.
Con
#6
Forfeited
Round 4
Pro
#7
Case closed. That was a short excursion.
Con
#8
Yes.