Instigator / Pro
6
1774
rating
95
debates
77.37%
won
Topic
#5314

Cuba has a better healthcare system than the US

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
0
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
0
1

After 1 vote and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

Benjamin
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Rated
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Minimal rating
1,400
Contender / Con
4
1702
rating
567
debates
68.17%
won
Description

BoP is shared.

Better: more desirable, satisfactory, or effective.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

I will not use the established framework because it is very subjective and to prove which is more desirable would require showing a statistical analysis of the support of both systems to determine which demographic is bigger.
That said, I shall judge which healthcare system is more effective, in terms of functionality & morals.

I will state that I don't buy Pro's argument that Cuba's healthcare system "would" be better than the US's healthcare system if it had the same amount of funding because this is arguing potentiality and a hypothetical, this is off-topic and isn't comparing what is current.
That said, Pro mentions that Cuba's healthcare's principles value the lives and satisfaction of the people, and grant accessibility to all of its citizens ensuring they all receive the same quality treatment. And that the healthcare industry in Cuba is more effective in ensuring doctors get employment stability. When Pro says that Cuba's healthcare system is simplistic and that American's healthcare system is too complicated, what he means is that Cuba is more competent at accomplishing more with minimal resources than America is with their huge supply of resources. Pro criticizes America's healthcare system as being too apathetic and insensitive, and that veterans and other people are unable to obtain insurance. Pro also mentions that America has a higher body count because they mistreat their doctors, and the overworked doctors are more prone to making mistakes and suffering a chronic lapsee in judgment because of this labor abuse, contributing to the death toll. Conversely, Cuba treats their doctors better.
Con counters that the complications of the American healthcare system are not the faults of the United States and are due to unrelated factors. Con makes the case that the American healthcare system has more money and resources and have been able to access better technology and medicine to treat illness whereas Cuba failed to develop a Covid vaccine, and that there is a minimal supply of doctors in Cuba. However, Con concedes to Pro's argument about the 8% of people that die. Con mentions that patients have more choices and control about which treatment they choose. However even with these comparisons, Con fails to convince me that the United States's healthcare is efficient mechanically, despite their superior clout & resources. So the win does ultimately go to Pro for arguments.

As for conduct, Con does get the point because of Pro's insults.:
1. "RM's laziness apparently knows no bounds. Another completely copy pasted round. And he complains about character limit, but it is his own laziness than reduces his argument density."

2. "RationalMadman stays true to the latter half of his name by citing a study that clearly refuted his argument right in the motherfucking abstract."