Instigator / Pro
4
1287
rating
346
debates
39.88%
won
Topic
#5332

Divination is 100% useful and scientifically accurate

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
1

After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Rated
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Minimal rating
None
Contender / Con
7
1702
rating
574
debates
67.86%
won
Description

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Round 1
Pro
#1
A strong opponent!

Divination is based on predicting future and asking if you should do something you are uncertain about.

There are many forms of it:

1. Crystal ball

2. Tarot

3. Playing cards

4. Dice 

5. Horoscope

6. Coin flip

Lets take tarot and cards for example.

Tarot has usually 50% cards meaning yes and 50% of cards meaning no.

In other cases, it has 1/3 cards yes, 1/3 cards no, and 1/3 cards maybe.

So tarot has 50% chance of being right in cases where things have 50% chance of occuring.

Thats scientifically accurate.

Most people make wrong decisions most of the time, so tarot can help them fix that.

Tarot also has card meanings, which give advice or warn of danger, so person becomes more careful and thinks about his actions.

Since most people are stupid and dont think about their actions, tarot is very useful for them and will likely in most cases make better decisions than they will.
Con
#2
Divination is based on predicting future and asking if you should do something you are uncertain about.
It is not based on this, this is what it claims it can enable you to do.

It's defined as
the art or practice that seeks to foresee or foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge usually by the interpretation of omens or by the aid of supernatural powers

Thus, it is instead based on:
  1. Interpretation of omens
  2. the aid of supernatural powers
There are many forms of it:

1. Crystal ball
2. Tarot
3. Playing cards
4. Dice 
5. Horoscope
6. Coin flip

Lets take tarot and cards for example.

Tarot has usually 50% cards meaning yes and 50% of cards meaning no.

In other cases, it has 1/3 cards yes, 1/3 cards no, and 1/3 cards maybe.
33.33...%

So tarot has 50% chance of being right in cases where things have 50% chance of occuring.
not 100%

Thats scientifically accurate.

Most people make wrong decisions most of the time, so tarot can help them fix that.

Tarot also has card meanings, which give advice or warn of danger, so person becomes more careful and thinks about his actions.

Since most people are stupid and dont think about their actions, tarot is very useful for them and will likely in most cases make better decisions than they will.

Round 2
Pro
#3
Its 100% useful, because I can use it to make decisions which are random.

It takes the guessing work away.

For example, if I cant decide which game to play, I just ask tarot and he tells me.

And if I am uncertain about some decision, I just ask tarot to decide for me.
Con
#4
Forfeited
Round 3
Pro
#5
Forfeited
Con
#6
Divination is 100% useful
This was not proven. In fact, Pro conceded that it's only useful 50% of the time and useless the other 50% and you have no way to know which until it's too late.
and

scientifically accurate
Pro has not remotely explained how it's scientifically accurate, this remains unproven.

Please note that both had to be proven for Pro to win because it's an 'and' debate resolution not an 'or' one.