Instigator / Pro
3
1266
rating
119
debates
15.97%
won
Topic
#605

Cro-Magnons were superior to modern humans

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
0
1

After 1 vote and with 4 points ahead, the winner is...

Ramshutu
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Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1764
rating
43
debates
94.19%
won
Description

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@KingArthur

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>Reported Vote: KingArthur // Mod action: Removed

>Points Awarded: 3 points to con for arguments

>RFD:

I think CON did a much better job at showing that Cro Magnons were not superior to modern day homo sapiens. Overall it was a decent debate on both sides.
PRO did not do enough to carry the assertion that Cro Magnons are indeed superior to humans. He struggled to overcome the burden of proof in this manner.
Wikipedia was rampant on both sides which I see as an issue for such a scientific topic however, PRO used some better legitimate sources (though not by much).
Conduct and grammar were a tie, nothing special there.

>Reason for Mod Action: The vote fails to adhear to the standards set forth in the code of conduct found here https://www.debateart.com/rules.
(1) In order to award the argument point, the voter must do the following: (a) Survey the main arguments and counterarguments presented in the debate; (b) Weigh those arguments against each other (or explain why certain arguments need not be weighed based on what transpired within the debate itself); and (c) Explain how, through the process of weighing, they arrived at their voting decision with regard to assigning argument points. The voter does neither of these things.
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Elephants are clearly supplier, making the resolution irrelevant when we should be focused on them! /joke

That forces you to either go to the site or never know what's in there (wrong).

You paste the shortURL into another URL shortener, then go to the 'short to long' for that, usually this bypasses it.

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@Type1

the easiest way to trip-link thinking users is to make a shortened URL of a site that isn't known to be a virus or something (such as an IP-tracking site) you can't screen short-url's so easily without pasting it into a dedicated 'short to long' URL decoder that only serves the most popular shortURL providers.

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@Type1

No, it doesn't exist. The closest thing to it is when the domain is something like the kind of redirect that NathanAllen used on us.

That is where the YouTube is so similar to the text of his domain that if you skim-read it on the bottom-left you'd barely notice it as even the ending is kept the same. It then redirects you to the real YouTube video after instantaneously pinging the IP-catch site where he gets your system info and IP emailed to him.

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@RationalMadman

I see, well that's pretty easy. I'm sure more advanced hackers have better versions of trick links that aren't so easy to detect.

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@Type1

To screen the URL, look at the things before the '.com'-type part of the link (you can tell because this level of '.' will never EVER be followed by a '.' but be followed by a '/' or by only text/numbers/these symbols: %_-().

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@Type1

okay, the blue text you see, on Chrome it's as simple as this on a computer:

wave your mouse over it, instantly look at the bottom left of your screen. Read the URL that shows; that is 100% the real URL that you are about to click.

If this ever changes or you are using a different browser or something without that chrome-ability like a computer has, it's like this:

right-click the hyperlink (or hold down if on a phone), click either:

1. Copy Link Address

2. Copy URL

OR

3. Copy Linked URL

etc

THEN

Paste the URL into anywhere that text shows (make sure you are pasting and not 'paste and search' or 'paste and go' type pasting into the URL bar. That is your real URL of the link.

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@RationalMadman

Yes, by all means explain how to never fall for it.

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@Type1

Why are you certain?

Anyway, there is a way that it is possible. The URL he has as the text of the link is the same as the end-point of a redirect link that ends up there.

Again, this is the false-hyperlink scenario if that's the case. Do you want to know how to never fall for it? (I won't explain how to do it).

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@RationalMadman

The gun may have not actually been his but I know that was how he got my IP. I don't know how he did it, but I'm certain it was from me clicking on that link. I am not a computer expert or a hacker but I am internet-wise.

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@Type1

Are you very certain that it was from that link or is there not the possibility that the link was to a Google Image of a gun (maybe his and maybe not, from the sounds of it not, he likely stayed totally anonymous so wouldn't reveal it) and that it was from a previous link or encounter of some cyber-kind that he had obtained your IP address?

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@RationalMadman

The link took me directly to a picture he took of his gun then he said " I'll see you in a few hours" and posted coordinates and my IP address. I searched the coordinates in google maps and it lead me to a nearby service provider but at first glance I genuinely thought he had my exact location. The link itself was a regular google image link.

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@Type1

You probably shouldn't type the part where you wrote 'hoping I could either...' etc.

Anyway, there is no such thing as a regular link. What possibly happened was you saw a URL that wasn't the URL of the hyperlink (the blue text was a regular 'link' but not the website that is hyperlinked to go to when it's clicked. I could even do that on this website, would you like me to explain how never ever to fall for that again or was the issue that the link WAS what you thought it was (same URL) and simply did something you thought it wouldn't?

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@RationalMadman

Someone got my IP once just from a regular link using google chrome. Luckily the guy was too stupid to find my actual address and thought the service provider was my actual location. He literally wanted to kill me and I willingly walked into the trap hoping I could either end up killing him instead or that he would get caught and arrested.

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@Type1

He gets the link by viewing on an Android Phone's Google Chrome the image on Google Images and clicking 'share' and 'copy to clipboard'. Google vets all the links, it cannot be a virus or doxxing, I am a computer expert trust me I know when a link can be dangerous.

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@Type1

https://images.app.goo.gl/C3DLtCxvtzwQ8mJ96

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@Ramshutu

Yes I'm sure you would like me to go there but that's not going to happen.

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@Type1

https://images.app.goo.gl/4re5roYKZ6EZ4ig57

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@Ramshutu

The only thing around here that would be sad enough to make me play such a tiny violin is your level of retardation.

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@Type1

See my avatar.

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@Ramshutu

1.) All Cro Magnons are Homo sapiens. All Homo Sapiens are classics as Modern humans. Therefore pro is asking us to compare Modern Humans to Modern Humans.
When I said modern humans I meant fully modern humans as in the literal humans walking around on earth right now, you are retarded if you can't understand the difference between cro-magnons and modern humans as in humans living in the modern age.

2.) Pro keeps presenting arbitrary and cherry picked criteria as if they are objective - when they clearly aren’t s
That is precisely what you are doing

3.) Pro is making up a series of claims about Cro Magnon - which he confuses with Neanderthals.
You are literally lying. Either that or you are once again retarded. I never at all said Cro-Magnons were neanderthals, I said they had neanderthal DNA and are crossbreeds between humans and neanderthals you insanely disingenuous piece of shit.

4.) Pro mistakes Cro Magnons as the progenitors of humans from the Middle East and Asia - it’s the other way around.
You are focusing on European migration either because you are intellectually dishonest, a stupid cunt or both. Cro-Magnons migrated to asia from the near east, not from Europe.

5.) Pro is now just resorting to insults and name calling: consider this when awarding Conduct.
Fuck you, I hate you because you are a retarded lying cunt and your misinformation should be a greater blow to your conduct than my rudeness is to mine if the voters have any sense. You are an ass licking fuckwit and I hope your step-father molested you.

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@Ramshutu

Will you accept the challenge debate or nah?