Instigator / Con
6
1597
rating
199
debates
55.03%
won
Topic
#6124

Non-Orthodox Jews cannot find a good reason to oppose converting to Christianity.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
0
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
0
1

After 1 vote and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

Sir.Lancelot
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Rated
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Minimal rating
None
Contender / Pro
4
1382
rating
437
debates
45.54%
won
Description

I am a neutral side, neither jewish nor christian. But I am arguing the Con side of this position.

(This debate is inspired by AdaptableRatman, but anyone is welcome to accept.)

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Both sides were poor debaters in this debate. Let me be very clear on that.

Con intentionally forfeited 3 out of 4 Rounds. I don't care the he posted 2 of the 3. He really FF'd. The problem is so did Pro but with 1 Round less of intent.

Con basically plagiarised a website using copy paste to make his arguments. That website blatantly is geared towards Talmudic Jews and at the very least severely Conservative ones.

https://jewsforjudaism.org/about-jews-for-judaism

If you scroll down to the images with the bearded men it blatabtky is an Orthodoxy movement behind the website.

Pro noticed 0 of this. Con used literal Talmudic reasoning and Orthodox are among the Jews that hold Talmud, written after Christ was around, to dismiss hom based on redefinitions of what the Messiah had to fulfil or ignoring that Christianity did spread around the world and did hell world peace eventually happen.

The fact Pro dropped all of this and says now it is time for Voters to 'pick favourites when he had 2 different Rounds still left to reply to Con, loses the debate for him.

As for Pro's case, it seems he is trying to explain how Christianity opens up Judaism's faith and heaven to gentiles. I don't really know what to do with that since he doesn't address the fact that in Round 3 of 4, Con raises some reasons to dismiss Jesus as the Jewish prophecied Messiah (but these were mostly Talmudic reasons which is what is so utterly irritating).

There is nothing we can really do but vote arguments to Con. I don't think copy-pasting ones entire constructive out of a solo linked source should win the sources point.