"the universe is a created universe - it had a beginning, and it couldnt have created itself."
How do you know it couldn't?
You have no proof of this. You did not witness this, did you? This is a very shallow assertion. You're essentially trying to argue cause and effect and you have no proof that the law of causality even existed at that instance .
Many people assert causality without evidence because were subjects to it so it's hard to contemplate anything without it.
But you have to remember that we're probably speaking of what was before everything. We don't know.
We have our beliefs. That's different. But beliefs exist because we have no proof.
" it needs something outside of our 3 dimensions to create these 3 dimensions. a computer code couldnt have created the computer. it needs another dimension (us) to put the wires together and the plastic together to form that computer. and the computer definitely didnt form by chance."
See this is what I mean. This is all based on rules within this reality we're in. But before this reality of rules , what was it?
"Then the moral argument, im not gonna go deep into it for now but the basics is just that what defines good and bad. what makes it so wrong about killing someone. "because it takes a life" you might ask. why is that bad. whats so wrong with that. "
This has nothing to do with proving God nor proving Christianity is associated with God nor proving Christianity is correct.
"also you may ask "well we need hard evidence to prove god". well its pretty hard to measure somehting outside of our 3 dimensions with tools within the 3 dimensions. its like code in a computer trying to observe who created the computer. it cant do it"
Well there you go. You concede it can't be done.
"the best evidence we have is: the bible, jesus, and miracles from god, which are seriously real."
This is not evidence. If it was evidence, it wouldn't be a religion. It's a faith. Now an individual with faith can look at the scripture as the word from the Almighty God Jesus Christ , which would be the substance of things hoped for, evidence of things not seen.
However, the revelation is given to those it is given to . So it's for all intent and purposes, it is not evidence. At least not in an objective fashion.
"there is easily lots of evidence about these things:
a)jesus was a real person
b)he claimed to be the messiah
c) he did perform miracles which his eneimies accused him of using black magic for it.
d) he got crucified
e)the tomb was empty
f) the apostles all died horrible deaths because of their faith, they wouldnt do it for a lie. especially if they got nothing out of it except mockery and death. unlike other religions like muhummad who got famous and rich.
ill leave it at that for now"
None of this proves Christianity came from God or is associated with God. Not God in the scriptures .
You can't read anywhere in that book where Jesus or God established Christianity. It was a complete man made invention.
So bottomline, when it comes to God , religion, it's all faith. Even the scripture says , blessed are those who believe and have not seen. So this moot debate on the existence of God and trying to prove a correct religion, let alone Christianity is not even supported by the biblical scripture. You're wayyyyy off.
P.S. if you want to discuss or debate was is the correct religion according to the Bible, let me know.
unlike other religions like muhummad who got famous and rich.
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Creo que la religión es un tema más de negocio, eso no quiere decir que no exista un Dios, creo que existe Dios y para comunicarse con él, es suficiente tener fe y comunicarse con el corazón.
yeah im new mate. im honestly just wanting to look at what other peoples view on this stuff is yk. but yeh i am
The claim that the Bible contradicts Christianity is vile, but do you wanna debate it?
You seem new. I recommend watching some debates or people like Trent Horn. They'll help you improve you're arguements.