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Same sex marriage in India acceptable or not
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Disha_maheshwari
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Round 1
"The State shall not deny to any person equality before the law or the equal protection of the laws within the territory of India."[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_14_of_the_Constitution_of_India
Does that 'really mean it allows gay marriage though?
People. . . 'Can't be treated all the same,
An adult and a child get treated differently by the law I'd assume?
I mean, in America for instance, it's that way.
We even have different 'prisons for adults and juveniles.
I'd agree, societies 'do change over time though.
And I 'suppose there have been many 'different ideas of marriage throughout the world and history.
Bit hard 'to change it though, when it has large implications,
Lot of cultures in the world, where women had a lot less right for instance, for being women.
Though some cultures were more equal that that.
. . . Still, in cultures 'with that, even progressive cultures, marriage often had a 'lot more laws tied into it, never mind the religion or culture part.
There would be a 'mass of laws I assume, based 'specifically around marriage as between a man and a woman.
Makes it 'tricky to change.
. . .
Course, lot of that changed in much of the world, more equal rights to women, less 'need for a number of the protection laws, or slavery laws, depending on culture and point in time.
Men and women being 'less defined for being 'men or 'women, and more defined for being 'people.
Though, I still think what one's sex is, plays a significant part in countries, even the one's focused on 'persons, rather than sex.
Nowadays, I think marriage 'is much more a social contract between two people, in some parts of the world.
But that's just my view as an American, mish mash or cultures, almost 'excessive amount of Individual Freedom here.
. . .
Round 2
Eh, 'Natural, is a funny word.
Rabies for example, 'occurs in nature, 'but if a person see's a wolf foaming at the mouth and other rabies actions, they might say, "That's not natural."
Course, rabies isn't 'so much inborn in a wolf. . .
Genetic diseases then, suppose a wolf was born albino, people might say "That's not natural."
Sure that's just natural selection and chance, but the norm, normal and natural, depend on what box you're putting them in.
Natural also applies to 'Society,
Even 'if humans have many different forms of society,
'Natural to one society, is not always Natural to another society.
Not 'regular, that is to say.
For some people, marriage is 'primarily about sharing genetics and fortunes with another.
Bible for instance has,
English Standard Version
“If brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no son, the wife of the dead man shall not be married outside the family to a stranger. Her husband’s brother shall go in to her and take her as his wife and perform the duty of a husband’s brother to her.
https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/25-5.htm
Can you imagine if the brother had married a man, then died?
Just doesn't 'sound right.
It's that recognition again, of 'differences, between the sexes.
Purposes and abilities,
Course someday if science creates artificial wombs, what will one do then?
. . . And I suppose one could argue there are 'already alternate solutions in modern society such as surrogate mothers. That past laws might have not accounted for.
Not that people apply all Biblical laws unto themselves anyhow, as they often talk about 'other 'older country laws, history books not always prescriptive, but eh, lot of different takes, I'm sure.
I don't really know what India and various parts of India believe,
But I think same sex marriage has greatly changed American culture.
Course it's one of many changes. Born of, beside, and birther of.
People 'say don't worry about the slippery slope,
But so much of history occurs in 'tiny changes we don't notice,
It's like our hair or face slowly aging, hard to see day by day, but it's there.
It's not 'always the 'sudden revolutions.