Instigator / Pro

Sir.Lancelot

1589

rating

219

debates

54.34%

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Topic

#6349

Diet Battle

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After not so many votes...

It's a tie!

Parameters

Publication date: 06.28.2025 05:42AM
Last updated date: 07.20.2025 02:55PM
Type: Rated
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: Two weeks
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open
Minimal rating: None

Contender / Con

Mharman

1421

rating

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38.33%

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Description

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Round 1

Sir.Lancelot

06.30.2025 06:49AM

Pro

Breakfast
A liter of iced coffee (4 shots of cream, 8 tablespoons of sugar, and triple shots of hazelnut)

Bacon, eggs toast. Greasy spoon style

Donut and bagel with cream cheese

Smoking a cigarette as an appetizer and smoking a cigarette for dessert.

Lunch

A street hot-dog, slice of pizza, and a slice of deli pastrami sandwich.

Bag of chips, and a bag of pretzels.

Red bull

Dinner

Meatloaf and mashed potatoes, and a budweiser

Dessert

A carton of strawberry Haagen-Dasz!

Caffeine: How much is too much? - Mayo Clinic

The sweet danger of sugar - Harvard Health

Mharman

07.01.2025 04:54AM

Con

DIET: Eating Like 5 Guys, presented by DoorDash

1 PM: "Pre-Workout" (Walking around your house, fatass) Protein Breakfast

-Bacon Cheeseburger (1060 Calories)

-Bacon Dog (600 Calories)

-Reese's Cups Milkshake Mix-In (150 Calories, plus the average calories of a milkshake, which 390-870 calories) Peanut Butter is healthy, isn't it?

3 PM: Early Snack

-Grilled Cheese (470 Calories)

-Veggie Sandwich (265 Calories)

-Coffee Milkshake Mix-In, since you're already starting to feel tired carrying yourself around (29 calories, plus the average calories of a milkshake)

6PM: Lunch

Appetizer: Large Fries (1310 Calories), plus a bunch of those peanuts they serve)

Meal:

-BLT Sandwich (600 Calories)

-2x Little Cheeseburgers (610 Calories each)

-Small cajun style fries (530 calories, likely a bit more since they have added ingredients)

-1 large Coca-cola, no ice for maximum soda capacity

- A second large coca-cola, also no ice, purchased with doordash rewards

7PM: Midday Snack

- Small fries with a side of jalapeno peppers (535 calories)

9:30PM: Dinner

Appetizer: More of those peanuts, a side of grilled onions and grilled mushrooms

Meal:

-2x Bacon Cheese Dogs w/ relish and ketchup (715 Calories each)

-Hamburger (840 Calories- only 840 instead of the other burgers... gotta watch those calories!)

-Small fries (530 calories)

-Large Sprite, one again no ice

Dessert:

- Oreo Cookie Milkshake mix-in (65 calories plus the average milkshake calories)

9:45PM: Late night snack

-Strawberry Milkshake (you know the drill)

-Little Bacon Burger (620 Calories)

Supplemented by gaming and discord roleplaying all day, until 5AM

Round 2

Sir.Lancelot

07.03.2025 02:52AM

Pro

Con's total calorie intake comes to.: 11 814 kcal and 13 734 kcal.

Sumo wrestlers consume anywhere near 7000 to 10,000 calories a day. Con expects us to believe he has surpassed that.

The largest athletes that aren't sumo and morbidly obese people can't even consume anywhere near that amount. It takes rarities to be the exception, or specialized training to get to that level.

Con's body wouldn't allow him to get anywhere close to that level and if he pushed past his limits, would likely be hospitalized.

The statistics and the physics make this both unlikely and unrealistic, meaning that Con is most likely exaggerating or fabricating these results.

TIL that despite a diet of up to 7,000 calories per day and weighing up to 400 lbs, sumo wrestlers typically do not suffer from symptoms of obesity due to their intense workout regimens. Upon retirement, however, they must seriously cut calories or become at risk for cardiovascular disease. : r/todayilearned

Breakfast

3 belgium waffles - maple syrup - strawberry, five scrambled eggs, three bacon, and two slices of toast.

Large glass of OJ

Lunch

Fried bologna sandwich with lettuce + tomato, and french fries.

Coke + Milk shake.

Dinner

Spaghetti bolognese

Mharman

07.04.2025 07:24PM

Con

There is nothing in the description that the diet has to be the arguer’s diet- therefore the criticism is invalid.

This can be further proven with the fact that my opponent claims he had a cig for breakfast and dinner… which is suspiciously absent from his Round 2, the same round where he argues a nonexistent rule. It is unlikely just a man who smokes multiple times a day just takes a day off, therefore that was likely an exaggeration as well.

Anyway, here’s the next diet:

Nothing. Eating nothing.

Round 3

Sir.Lancelot

07.04.2025 07:36PM

Pro

There is nothing in the description that the diet has to be the arguer’s diet- therefore the criticism is invalid.

Extend short description.: "Whoever has the unhealthier and more delicious diet wins."

Breakfast:

Cinnamon rolls, french toast, and hot chocolate.

Lunch

BLT's with coke.

Dinner

Ribs, steak, and potato salad. (With more coke.)

It is unlikely just a man who smokes multiple times a day just takes a day off, therefore that was likely an exaggeration as well.

With the exception that you're a very moderate or social smoker that lit up two cigarettes at separate times.

Anyway, here’s the next diet:

Nothing. Eating nothing.

No diet.

Mharman

07.06.2025 02:55PM

Con

Rebuttals

Extend short description.: "Whoever has the unhealthier and more delicious diet wins."

Has as in actively eating what’s in the diet, or has as in something that’s proposed? For example, a Ford bigwig could say to his engineers: “Draw up some blueprints. Whoever has the best car is what we’re going with.”

Because of this, the rule is not an explicit ban on my R1 argument.

With the exception that you're a very moderate or social smoker that lit up two cigarettes at separate times.

Breakfast isn’t very social… and it’s pretty clear that “for breakfast and for dinner” was a joke. Especially when someone so intent on smoking, just doesn’t smoke the next two days. That rarely happens and such, I doubt it the same.

But sure, it’s technically feasible that you smoked twice one day and didn’t the next.

So is the caloric intake HALF that of a competitive eater:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joey-chestnut-hot-dog-eating-contest-calories-consumed/

Due to an unclear rule that doesn’t ban what Pro claims (as well as a likely violation of the rules by my opponent), it is thus that I ask the voters to adopt the standard of what is feasible, not what the arguer has done.

No diet.

Eating nothing is a diet. It’s counts as a diet of nothing.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/diet

diet
noun
US /ˈdaɪ.ət/ UK /ˈdaɪ.ət/
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B1 [ C or U ]
1. the food and drink usually eaten or drunk by a person or group:

2. an eating plan in which someone eats less food, or only particular types of food, because they want to become thinner or for medical reasons:

If you plan to eat nothing (definition 2) to become thinner, it is technically a diet. And if you consume nothing, your diet for that day is nothing (definition 1).

My last diet

Breakfast

Cinnamon Toast Crunch w milk, and a pack of lucky charms marshmallows

https://www.amazon.com/Lucky-Charms-Limited-Magical-Marshmallows/dp/B08HLC944G

Lunch

1 medium stuffed crust pepperoni and sausage pizza from Pizza Hut. 2 20 oz bottles of Pepsi

Snack

Half a container of oreos, and 2 small bags of potato chips

Dinner

Cheeseburger, buffalo wings, and onion rings at your local bar. A Hurricane- 3 in fact. You’re getting shitfaced tonight!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_(cocktail)

Midnight snack