"Pro-choice does not mean that you wish to destroy life. Even if it did, that does not make it a nihilist position."
You're conflicting yourself real bad. I was going to say your first sentence was in contradiction. But you beat me to it with the next statement in acquiesce to indicating the possibility of applicability that it sho-nough means that. You have the abortion in order not to support or care for that life that would of been.
Also it's not my position that being pro abortion means the person is a nihilist outright. I'm saying the person will find more consistency in the position being one.
"Whoa! Hold it there cowboy. I haven’t agreed to anything yet."
Like I say I'm not the fastest hands in all the West. I'll allow some time for you to get into your position to draw .
"Since you claim that these two are the same, then it means that -every moment you are not having intercourse with the opposite sex- you are being immoral by preventing a possible future life from being born. "
You know I went back to check and couldn't find where I said abortion and homosexuality are the same.
This is what happens when you don't quote my exact words and counter the exact words used.
It keeps you from misinterpreting, mis-phrasing and rephrasing .
"Homosexuality and abortion are two sides of the same coin."
That's what I stated. Ask me what I mean instead of adding in what you think is meant.
Homosexuality and abortion are two facets connected to the same category but they're two individual facets.
So what is the connection? What is the comparison?
Homosexuality doesn't just mean not having engaging in sexual intercourse with the opposite sex.
See you thought you had something here but not so.
Homosexuality is using the sexual organs in tandem with going against their structured formulaic function. Where as with abortion accomplishes the same disruption with a man and woman using theirs where as with any contraception, see.
See the way the opposite side was framing it, it's like saying if you walk to your destination instead of driving the vehicle, you are misusing or going against the vehicle. No you misuse the vehicle by operating it in tandem with a practice that'll perhaps blow up the engine or something of the sort. Now you can't use it to sustain or survive your efficient travel .
"I would hate a society where everyone is just breeding constantly, everywhere around me.
To your credit, I’m sure you wouldn’t mind. "
Whether the opposing side realizes it or not, this is actual nihilist rhetoric. You strongly dislike a race surviving itself. How can you claim to love life, be a supporter of life but are strongly opposed, strongly not like for it to maintain itself to keep existing?
Total inconsistency. You definitely just walked right into that. I shouldn't mind if I'm non nihilist and have no self hatred of myself. If it wasn't for breeding I surely wouldn't have myself so I'm not going to conflict that principle. That's total self negation.
"Now you delve into physics or whatever this is.
A coin does not have the same basis (for whatever this means).
A coin has two different sides. Head and tails. "
Yes two faces to it. Two facets that are directly interrelated. You will find one with the other upon coming across the coin with such.
"First: Is the topic pro choice or pro abortion?
Protecting the freedom of choice does not mean to encourage all pregnant women to abort."
Oh interrelated again, both. To be pro choice of abortion is pro abortion. Not one without the other.
"Second:I think you misunderstand nihilism.
Why would a nihilist even make excuses?"
Just understand what I mean by nihilism and go from there. Argue my positioning. That's it. Don't take the status quo and consensus of anything.
It depends on the context when you ask the question.
"Being pro-choice itself does not qualify to being a nihilist. Because you are valuing the life and comfort of an existing human or at least his freedom of choice."
It absolutely qualifies being a nihilist. A nihilist to what I mean from my position , whatever you want to call this type person, you don't like the term nihilist, whatever, the person has not the same regard for life as a true pro life individual.
The pro abortionist that claims to have the same value or close to it would be better off taking the lesser to no value that fits better in that position which would make sense for a nihilist.
A nihilist, the type I'm talking about is not a life advocate. I don't know what the opposing side has in mind about a nihilist.
But I've interacted with nihilists that take on the pro abortionist stance. That have so to speak vocalized what the opposing side has stated.
Which was : "I would hate a society where everyone is just breeding constantly"
That coincide with statements such as of the population being so called problematic so why not start with being all for abortion at least?
You can't claim being for the life of others, particularly the pregnant women and not being in conflict.
"The consistent moral framework to being pro-choice would require: valuing existing lives to potential ones.
In the extreme hypothetical case: if given the task of choosing between:
‘the guaranteed continuity of human species in the expense of the current generation’ or ‘The extinction of our species but the comfortable living of our current generation’
Consistently with the forementioned moral framework one would take the second option.
And that is possible without nihilism."
That is completely nihilistic to destroy yourself. Furthermore with the unjustifiable reasoning of comfort. There are several instances of discomfort that people have to endure to support their families that bring in the next generations. So it's non nihilism and the self will , self love to actually support and continue life regardless.
The question is, is there really a thing called "potential life"?
Once you removed the concept of "potential life" and realize life itself is structured to sustain itself, you have no room to argue you pro abortionist, pro choice people.
Mall was just pushing words into @Umbrellacorp 's mouth lol
About abortion?