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#6687

Is the Trinity - One God three persons biblical and did Jesus Christ approve of homosexuality?

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Note : You don't have to debate both topics. But both are up to debate.

Please quote exactly. Do not rephrase or reinterpret. Answer all questions directly. Failure to comply with all this is an automatic forfeit.

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Round 1
Con
#1
You have the floor. It is a biblically based topic.

So let's get some scripture scripture scripture, take the yoke and learn.
Pro
#2
Thanks. So in the Bible, we see the existence of the Trinity first in Genesis, where God says, 'Let US make man in our image.' He may have said this to discuss the idea with the other members of the Trinity, therefore showing it's existence. Second, Jesus throughout out the Gospels points out his equality with God, throughout verses such as John 10:30. Now you may ask about the Holy Spirit: well in the Old Testament, there are several instances where authors mention God's spirit, such as when David pleads that "God's spirit" may not leave him. Now while this doesn't necessarily point out that the Holy Spirit is more than an instrument, the New Testament, especially in Acts, show how people refer to the Holy Spirit as more than just God's tool, but also as this selective individual. So yes, the Bible does prove the existence of the Holy Trinity. From the very beginning in Genesis, to the Gospel's teaching and documented work of the apostles, there is without doubt 
Round 2
Con
#3
"Thanks. So in the Bible, we see the existence of the Trinity first in Genesis, where God says, 'Let US make man in our image.' He may have said this to discuss the idea with the other members of the Trinity, therefore showing it's existence."

So you say we see it but do we read it? If we can't read it, what we see is subjective because you the one saying what we see. I'm not in the "we", I don't see it. I'm sure if I can see what is written, it'll be so.
Then you say "He may have said this to discuss", so what is with the uncertainty?

If it written, it is so. We have to search the scripture to see if these things are so. Then you say "other members" but have no scripture written any where, where God said there are other members besides him. The body has many members but the body is not God Almighty.

So because we're not reading what you're saying, a lot of adding to the scripture is being done. You're giving me more and more things not written where your words ought to be few as the scripture says.

"Second, Jesus throughout out the Gospels points out his equality with God, throughout verses such as John 10:30. "

Jesus never said he was one person or one member of the Trinity. Jesus did say God is a spirit. Why didn't Jesus stop there and not say God is three persons?

So because he didn't say it, I'm not going to add to that. The book teaches against adding unto his pure words.

Let's just face it. The Trinity doctrine is what man invented much like christianity in order to try to understand the bible he never received the mystery or revelation for.

"Now you may ask about the Holy Spirit: well in the Old Testament, there are several instances where authors mention God's spirit, such as when David pleads that "God's spirit" may not leave him. Now while this doesn't necessarily point out that the Holy Spirit is more than an instrument, the New Testament, especially in Acts, show how people refer to the Holy Spirit as more than just God's tool, but also as this selective individual. "

God who is holy according to the old testament is spirit. The spirit of God is God. God is holy and spirit.
God is the holy one. The only God.....even thou only.


"So yes, the Bible does prove the existence of the Holy Trinity. From the very beginning in Genesis, to the Gospel's teaching and documented work of the apostles, there is without doubt "

Being that you mentioned the apostles and I was thinking of going to the new testament, let's get into one.

Why didn't Paul a servant of Christ, follows Christ teach and say there is One God the Father and two other persons or one God three persons or one God the Father, the son not the Father, the holy Spirit not the Father?

Why didn't Jesus say the Father was not the holy Spirit?

Why didn't he say God is three persons as opposed to spirit?

This debate I hope the habits are fixed and we stop interpreting and just read what the scriptures say and go no further or beyond what is written. If you haven't been taught this about the scripture, now is the time .
Scripture says now it is high time.
Pro
#4
Forfeited
Round 3
Con
#5
I rest my case.
Pro
#6
Forfeited
Round 4
Con
#7
I rest my case.
Pro
#8
Forfeited
Round 5
Con
#9
Case closed.
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