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Is Jesus Christ Father God according to scripture?
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Please quote exactly. Do not rephrase or reinterpret. Answer all questions directly. Failure to comply with all this is an automatic forfeit.
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Round 1
Alright a survey to screen for serious available folks.
What was your impression of the topic to draw you to participate here?
The topic is somewhat controversial and has been argued countless times but I believe it is straightforward and I can clearly define and answer the question posed as well as convince the opposition.
Round 2
Yes. Well I don't have expectations because it seems like a lot of individuals just forfeit participation here.
But for the readers of the audience, for their sake, let's get into this topic.
Is Jesus Christ Father God according to scripture?
Yes.
Even trinitarians would have to agree.
Why?
Trinitarians believe that God is three persons.
The grand great question is, does God , the Creator, the holy one, does he ever ever.....ever.....stop ......... being the Father?
This question is so grand, trinitarians will evade.
But when they say .....God is three persons, he is the person of the Father as well as the son as well as the Holy Spirit.
This God is spirit according to Jesus. So this spirit is Father as well as holy ghost.
We have scripture that says "but unto us, there is one God the Father. So God is the Father.
We have scripture that says "you have not lied unto man but unto God " I believe.
I may have misquoted.
Let's get that in Acts 5, we start at verse one.
" But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. "
So we have scripture teaching God is the Father. Teaching God is also the holy ghost.
Now the big question. Is Jesus God?
We go to 2 Peter 1.
"1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ"
The saviour is God , God is the saviour. Christ is God. God is Christ.
Scripture says our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.
That's really what it is when it comes to this.
Jesus is the Savior. The Father or Father God is the Savior Jesus.
I believe the scripture teaches his hand is not so short he cannot save. Let's get that . In Isaiah I believe.
Yes we have Isaiah chapter 59 and at verse one.
" Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save"
Now I won't go too deep right now. This site awfully has many unavailable participants.
So the opposing side if truly so, can come back with questions and answers.
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Round 3
I rest my case.
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Round 4
Yes indeed.
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Round 5
So much for this.
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That was probably one of the worst arguments I've ever read.