Instigator / Pro
9
1403
rating
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debates
21.88%
won
Topic
#715

The F-22 Is Better Than The F-35

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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Better arguments
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3
Better sources
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4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
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2

After 2 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
11
1702
rating
569
debates
68.1%
won
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Round 1
Pro
#1
Hello, RM.

Well in my opinion, the F-22 Raptor is better and more advanced technologically than the F-35 Lightning. And according to my previous research, the F-22 is equivalent in power to five F-15 Eagles. However, the F-35 cannot even match a F-16.
Con
#2
Well in my opinion, the F-22 Raptor is better and more advanced technologically than the F-35 Lightning.
In my opinion that makes it worse, doesn't matter and/or is a lie.

the F-22 is equivalent in power to five F-15 Eagles.
However, the F-35 cannot even match a F-16.
I think you screwed up a bit here. The former statement has nothing to do with the latter one.

F-35 is super relevant, making latest News headlines and something Russia and China want to get hold of, F-22 is yesterday's News. This makes it extinct in superiority as it's no longer even in the discussion other than an old-school fighter jet from a time when fighting by planes was the way wars were fought.



This makes it better. It's so relevant and better at crashing.
Round 2
Pro
#3
Forfeited
Con
#4
             
Round 3
Pro
#5
Forfeited
Con
#6
               
Round 4
Pro
#7
Yes, but the F-35 cannot match the F-22 as a air superiority fighter, as proven by /nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/f-22-vs-f-35-which-stealth-fighter-wins-shootout-41652militarymachine.com/f-22-raptor-vs-f-35-lightning-ii/also proves that the Raptor has more advantages than the Lightning II. From another perspective, the Lightning II was designed as a multi-role combat aircraft, however it cannot even match a much older jet, so it can be considered, to some degree, as a failure.
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Con
#8
If F-22 is upgrading, that would mean it's a different vehicle to the one being debated here. The 'is' in the resolution was at the time of making it, not what it will be post-debate creation.

F-22 needs upgrading because it's so bad. F-35 isn't designed to fight, so you're comparing them in different leagues.

Neither are actually 'better' when we consider the difference purposes. F-35 can cruise and comfortably fly in ways F-22 can't and this is because it's nto designed to fight in the same brutally fast way but to survey more.

As for 'improving and upgrading' the F-22 is near obsolete with the F-35 having far more upgrades and national backing from Israel and a couple of other nations.

So, even in that regard,  you lose.

Round 5
Pro
#9
Forfeited
Con
#10
Forfeited