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Is Jesus Christ of Nazereth, God in Human flesh?

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With 6 votes and 21 points ahead, the winner is ...

David
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I am a Christian, and would like to present evidence that Jesus is God.

Round 1
Pro
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/10/1/s_1007001 In John 10:30, Jesus claimed to be One with the Father. I will be including entire chapters so you can read in context, and directing you to the verses I believe prove my claims. Cool?
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/14/1/s_1011001 Verse 9 in chapter 14, says that he who has seen Jesus, has seen the Father. In verse 15, we see Jesus saying to obey His commandments. Who but God makes commandments? Verse 26 speaks of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, that is the Holy Spirit. 
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/11/1/s_1008001 Verse 25 says Jesus is the Resurrection, and the Life. Many like myself, believe only God can do that.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/8/1/s_1005001 Verse 24 says unless I believe Jesus is He, I will die in my sins, and in verse 58, Jesus said: Before Abhraham was, I AM. In Hebrew, that is Yahweh, and in Greek, that is Ego Ami.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/5/1/s_1002001 Jesus made Himself equal with God, and this made the Unitarian sects of Jewish thought angry.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/1/1/s_998001 Verse 1 says in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Verse 14 says the Word becam flesh, and dwelt among us.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/heb/1/1/s_1134001 Verse 8 references Jesus when it says Thy throne oh God, is forever, which is a quotation of: Psalm 45, linked here: https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/psa/45/1/s_523001 Please pay special attention to verses 6-7.
Psalm 110: https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/psa/110/1/s_588001 The LORD said to my Lord? I believe this refers to the father speaking to Jesus, who is God the Son.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rev/1/1/s_1168001 in verse 8, Jesus claims to be the Alpha and the omega, the First, and the Last. Verse 11 says Jesus is the Almighty.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/col/2/1/s_1109001 Verse 9 says in Him dwelleth all of the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/col/1/15/s_1108015 Verse 15 says He is the Image of the invisible God.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/9/6/s_688006 He meaning Jesus shall be called Mighty God.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/12/44/s_1009044 Verses 44-45 say he who has seen jesus, has seen the Father.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1jo/5/7/s_1164007 Verse 7 proves that Yahweh God is a Trinity.
If Jesus is not God, why do demons fear Him? In my religious opinion, Jesus has to be God to have that much power.
Con
I negate. Jesus is NOT God in human form. 

C1: Jesus Sinned

Sin in this context means violation of the Torah Law. According to Christianity, Jesus was born under the Torah Law and thus must have kept that perfectly. With that, let’s begin by listing the sins of Jesus. 

Sin 1: Causing Damages

The Gospel of Matthew records this interesting passage:

"Not far away there was a large herd of pigs feeding. 31 So the demons begged Jesus, "If you are going to drive us out, send us into that herd of pigs." 32 "Go," Jesus told them; so they left and went off into the pigs. The whole herd rushed down the side of the cliff into the lake and was drowned. 33 The men who had been taking care of the pigs ran away and went into the town, where they told the whole story and what had happened to the men with the demons." Matthew 8:30-33.

The pigs were the livelihood of the person who owned them. This certainly caused extreme emotional and financial damage to them. 

Sh'mot / Exodus 21:37 "If a man steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters it or sells it, he must pay back five head of cattle for the ox and four sheep for the sheep.”

Jesus left town and failed to repay the damage done to the property owner. If Jesus is an all-powerful deity, surely he can cast out demons without causing financial loss. 

Sin 2: Lying 

Jesus lied to the Jewish court. Here’s the text in question:

John 18:20, "I spoke openly to the world, I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Jews always meet, and in secret I have said nothing.”

But this statement is false. Jesus purposefully veiled his teachings and taught in parables to prevent people from repenting from their sins:

Mark 4:11-12 “He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, ‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven.”

This text is especially problematic. The entire goal for Jesus is to “save the sins of the world,” yet he did this to prevent people from being forgiven!  

C2: The NT rejects Jesus’ Divinity

The NT does not portray Jesus as God. There are several points to prove this.

Sub-point 1: Jesus has a God

Jesus and the NT repeatedly call God “my God” and portrays Jesus as being separate from God. Here are a few references. 

John 20:17 “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”” 

If Jesus is God, who is he calling “my God?” There are many other references to this in the Book of Revelation. 

Romans 15:6 “glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”
Ephesians 1:3 “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.” 

Revelation 1:6 “[Jesus] has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen” 

Revelation 3:12 “The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never Mashall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.” 

That is another reference where Jesus is clearly calling God his God. 

 Sub-point 2: Jesus prays to God and commands u to pray to God

If Jesus was God, who was he praying to? Moreover, when Jesus tells us how to pray, Jesus tells us how to pray, he tells us to pray to God and never to himself. 

Matthew 6:9 “Pray then like this: “Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.”

Obviously, Jesus cannot be God if he is directing prayer to someone other than himself. 

C3: Messianic prophecies show that the Messiah is purely a man

Whether or not Jesus is the Messiah is beyond the scope of this debate. I believe I have conclusively shown in other debates that Jesus cannot be the Messiah. What I want to focus on here, however, is to prove that every time the prophets mention the Messiah, they portray him as a righteous servant of God and as a man. 

Isaiah 11:1-3 “And a shoot shall spring forth from the stem of Jesse, and a twig shall sprout from his roots. And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, a spirit of wisdom and understanding, a spirit of counsel and heroism, a spirit of knowledge and fear of the Lord. And he shall be animated by the fear of the Lord, and neither with the sight of his eyes shall he judge, nor with the hearing of his ears shall he chastise.”

Very clearly this messiah is not divine. 

Conclusion

There is irrefutable evidence that Jesus is not God in human form. Jesus sinned, had a God, and the messianic prophecies portray the Messiah as a human figure. 

Round 2
Pro
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=hebrews+4%3A14-16&version=AKJV According to this portion, Jesus was tempted in all points as we are, yet without sin, but wait, I have more for you. :)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=titus+1%3A1-4&version=AKJV Jesus is the One called Savior, yet this portion says God is our Savior. Also, for your viewing pleasure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLlWmB-ZqBE&t=20s
One thing I would like you my opponant to realize, is that I bear no ill will against anyone who disagrees with the Christian faith, so please try not to be too upset. Or maybe I read you wrong. Either way, I encourage you to watch the video I linked for you, and the people voting on this debate. i know I picked Jesus being God, which is the most controversial topic ever, but peace to you. I look forward to debating you in the future. Much love, me. :) <3
Con
Thank you. I will now refute my opponent's opening statement. Let's first begin by analyzing the resolution. In order to win this debate, Pro has to prove that Jesus Christ is God in human form. My opponent's entire argument rests solely on the Bible. The first obvious question to ask is why should we consider the Bible as God's word? Even if I concede your argument, you only proved that from a Biblical framework. You need to do more than just that to win this debate.

Also, note that my opponent completely dropped every one of my points against Jesus. Thus we are left to conclude that even with the Bible, we can easily prove that Jesus is not God. 
Round 3
Pro
I am so sorry, y'all. I am doing my best to prove to my intelectual opponant that Jesus is God. First, I am visually disabled, and that was a lot of points to counter. I am no genious when it comes to Bible stuff, but I provided a lot of Scripture from the Bible that I believe proves my case. I encourage everyone to reveiw my evidence, just to see if it's true or not. Peace.
Con
Arguments extended. I think my case against Jesus would be enough to trump any possible case for Jesus. 
Round 4
Pro
Forfeited
Con
Vote con!