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Abiogensis is inevitable in biology.

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With 3 votes and 14 points ahead, the winner is ...

Tiwaz
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Abiogenesis = The act of life creating itself through naturalistic processes.

Inevitable = Predetermined to have been as such.

Round 1
Pro
As a lot of you on this website already know.  I'm a philosophy enthusiast.  Biology is not my strong suit.  I will be presenting a very basic case and then looking to explore critiques from my opponent.  While I will be taking a hard position on this, I will be doing so for the purpose of learning about my position more. 


1. RNA. 

Scientists have done an experiment where they mixed the ingredients of life in with limestone and it has cause RNA to self replicate from nonliving material.  

The reasons for this are strange yet geometrically intuitive and much simpler than one might think.  Limestone forms in sheets.  This creates tiny shelves within the limestone.  Because of the way it forms, the material need to produce RNA happen to perfectly line up in a way to spring from nonliving material. 

As some people might know, RNA is one of the keys to life.  It is capable of producing all of the things we need to the process of evolution.  

Judging by this experiment, it may be the master key. 


The amazing thing about this experiment is that the scientists don't have to do anything special to make the process work like in the electricity experiments where electricity would form some of the building blocks, but they'd have to assume a lightning bolt and some other unknown process for things to work. 

In this experiment, all one has to do is put the ingredients in the same environment and things work themselves out. 


The only real critique that I can see is that one could argue that these ingredients could never meet.  I submit the planet earth as my evidence since it has all of these ingredients and the non living natural processes to get them together. 



I will not be attesting the origin of the universe or what abiogenesis implies about creation.  I will simply state that it's true and that it's inevitable.  



Due to the nature of physics,  There is always bound to be a place where all these ingredients will meet up and form some kind of life.  It wouldn't have to be the type of life we see here on earth.  It could happen in a place that's colder or hotter.  There are certain life forms that are so tough that they can live in the vacuum of space, so while abiogenesis looks likely to us sun loving humans, there are other creatures that don't care so much about oxygen and temperature and only need to form in a piece of rock to live at all. 


Your floor 
Con
My opponent said he concedes in the comment section. 

If this is the case and he chooses to reverse said concession I would request he forfeits round to ensure I am able to submit a proper opening argument.

Round 2
Pro
I concede. 
Con
Ok.
Round 3
Pro
let's get this voting section poppin. 
Round 4
Pro
Thanks for the gift.  I will now reciprocate. 




Please appreciate my profile pic in the background ;) 
Con

My family is Norwegian, this is the origin and atleast in part the meaning behind my icon. 
Round 5
Pro
Runic huh?  Interesting and it's a letter with a dual meaning.  I like it. 
Con
Yeah, I thought it would be suitable. 

Good debate.