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Topic
#903

Against Abortion

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
12
Better sources
2
8
Better legibility
1
4
Better conduct
0
4

After 4 votes and with 25 points ahead, the winner is...

Pinkfreud08
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
28
1614
rating
17
debates
85.29%
won
Description

I beileve abortion is wrong. Change my mind.

Round 1
Con
#1
I want to start this off by addressing one of the comments. Your argument assumes that I beileve in the concept of heaven/hell, which I don't.

I beileve that abortion is the killing of an innocent life, that if given the chance to survive, would lead a life similiar to any other life. Using the excuse that the child would be a burden or that it wouldn't lead a good life is stupid in my opinion. You can't just kill a 3 year old child if you don't want it, thats murder. Why is abortion any different?

P.S Sorry if my english is terrible, its not my first language.


Pro
#2
I want to start this off by addressing one of the comments. Your argument assumes that I beileve in the concept of heaven/hell, which I don't.
Never made that claim, that was someone else. 

Thankfully my opponent isn't religious which will save us a lot of time. 

I beileve that abortion is the killing of an innocent life, that if given the chance to survive, would lead a life similiar to any other life. 
My opponent here is clearly making an appeal to the potentiality of life to justify its existence. 

Well by this same logical extension my opponent would have to be against masturbation since that's the killing of sperm which is potential lives, 

Against woman not fertilizing their eggs since those eggs have the potential of life, 

If my opponent does bite the bullet and is also against these things, then his logic is absurd and I'll address why it's absurd. 

If my opponent Doesn't bite the bullet and isn't against these concepts than my opponent is a hypocrite and is being logically inconsistent. 

You can't just kill a 3 year old child if you don't want it, thats murder. Why is abortion any different?
This is a poor analogy on my opponents part which doesn't model the situation at all, 

A more accurate analogy would be this, 

You have Jenny a 16-year-old girl ready to go to college, gets good grades, and stays out of trouble. 

One day Jenny get's raped by a 40-year-old man and is traumatized, 

She also gets pregnant. 

Her giving birth to the baby will be a financial burden, most likely live a horrible life, the woman will be scarred physically and mentally. 

So in this scenario, we have to judge which life is worth more value. So let's run this down, which life is more valuable? 

- A 16-year-old girl who is intelligent and sentient. 

- A less than 5-month fetus which is not sentient nor intelligent. 

Whether or not you value the less than 5-month fetus is almost irrelevant, if you are going to bite the bullet and state that the unborn fetus's life is more important, 

Then by this same logical extension if a mother was in danger and the fetus would kill the mother, then since you'd value the fetus's life more you'd have to not terminate the pregnancy which in turn would kill the mother. 

This is defiantly a more accurate depiction in this scenario and is the most accurate. 

Now that my rebuttal is completed, I will now give you probable reasons as to why fetus's less than 5 months old shouldn't have a right to life, let alone over a woman. 

- The unborn fetus below the 5month mark doesn't have sentience. 

Without sentience it is hard to argue the being is even alive, this is exactly the same reason why as a society we've realized micro bacteria aren't worth saving. 

Nextly I would like to ask my opponent to specify how extreme he is on this issue. 

Are you against ALL abortions? Or allow abortions in certain scenarios? 

Anyways I look forward to your response and I hope we both learn something from this debate. 

SOURCES, 



Round 2
Con
#3
Forfeited
Pro
#4
Arguments extended 
Round 3
Con
#5
Forfeited
Pro
#6
Always a shame
Round 4
Con
#7
Forfeited
Pro
#8
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Round 5
Con
#9
Forfeited
Pro
#10
Very poor conduct on my opponents part