Instigator / Pro
0
1480
rating
2
debates
0.0%
won
Topic
#976

The Christian God is Fake... Prove Me Wrong... I dare you.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
0
2

After 2 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

Speedrace
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
2
1641
rating
63
debates
65.08%
won
Description

No information

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

This was a trivial decision as pro didn’t raeally turn up to the debate.

The KCA, the moral argument, and proof of Jesus Divinity were cons main arguments, he elaborated these well; and they are inherently intuited to understand. Their framing means that con meets the initial burden of proof.

Pros response was initially a non-response that didn’t dig or delve into cons argument, or provide an elaboration on why con was wrong.
Pros r3 response wasn’t much better, and didn’t crystallize any argument or point that allowed me to determine what aspect of cons position was wrong, a throwaway kind about cyclic universes, and a dismissive reference to acquiring morality isn’t sufficient to overturn pros point.

Round 4 was completely unrelated to any points made by con. And R5 was forfeited. This means pro dis. It provide his burden of proof at any point.

Con on the other hand extended, and reiterated his points, and as such his initial rounds were upheld due to lack of challenge.

The win goes to con as a result.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Doing a little vote experiment, trying to better follow the precise requirements set by admin (not sure if I’ll like it, but giving it a spin on a less important debate).
The important thing is I am giving each argument a score ranged (1, -1). A score of 1 is a slam dunk for pro, a score of 0 is a dead tie, and a score of -1 is a slam dunk for con.

I. Arguments
a. Survey Main Points:
1. The Kalam Cosmological Argument -0.25
Giving this 0.25, which is to say more than a tie, but it does not go anywhere expect building some confidence that there could be such a thing as God. Pro’s rebuttals fail heavily, but this argument does not go toward proving the precise God in question within this debate.

2. The Moral Argument -0.50
This boils down to “infer that something, or someone, created standards.” Pro did not refute this, merely asserted that it was incorrect (he could have pointed out differing moral codes, or various other tactics... even a reminder that it does not verify the big capital G.).

3. The Proof of Jesus’ Divinity -1.0
I was grading this at a -.75 prior to seeing pro’s reply. Pro’s reply was predicted and pre-refuted within con’s case, and worse was far weaker than con’s own, it was as if pro committed some type of reverse straw-person against himself.

4. Cain’s Wife 0.25
Con countered this by explained where Cain could have found a wife, and I am unsure why he defended the grossness of Cain apparently hooking up with his sister (or why she’d want to marry a murderer). Grading this above 0 as the timeline here is pretty hard to believe, and a small bit of credit for the humor.

5. Dinosaurs 0
They support nor harm neither case. Perhaps had pro not forfeited he would have made a nice joke about Pandas not existing.

b. Weighting:
See scores above.

c. Results:
-1.5, so con wins by a lot.

Was going to continue into the other categories, but I am already sick of this experiment. Pro offered no real case of his own, and made slightly amusing remarks instead of countering con's case.