do you agree OR do you disagree with the junkyard tornado argument as it is presented
1} and I repeat as you refuse to address directly my comment in post #67,.....
........Your provided link has not, nor every will define a 6th, regular/symmetrical, and convex polyhedron, ergo , there exist finite limits of Meta-space concepts that, can also exist as a local occupied space Universe, or occupied space Universe......
2} I recently provided link to Fred Hoyles Intelligent Universe, where he may have coined the phrase.... ' junkyard tornado, assembling an orderly 747 jumbo jet from disorderly Universe '... or something along those lines of thought. I also posted in that post that Fred hoyle was an atheist so not into the an intelligent creator God that created Universe.
....2a} first an foremost, you and I have agreed in the past there there is no free will because we live in cause > effect > resultant {?} Universe, ergo,
Universe has created a 747 Jumbo Jet via nature of humans access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts.
The problem with Freds tornado concept is it does not allow for eternally existent Universe, that with a tornado on the ground, lasts at most an two or so hours, whereas, we have no idea of how long it has taken Universe to arrive at humans with access to Meta-space mind, since the lastest set of Big Bang circumstances, or later, or before the big bang, in an eternally existing Universe, wherein, humans and jumbo jets may eternally re-occur in Universe.
Occupied space Universe { some-thing } does is not born from truly non-occupied space { no-thing }. See 1st law of thermodynamics, that, transpose as ebucs cosmic law that, occupied space cannot be created nor destroyed only transformed.
Many of these cosmic issue probelems arise because people are trapped in the pre-conditioned educational bias. And the same goes for many local issues. Many humans do not have the time or take the time to practice logical, common sense critical thinking process'es.