What is a woman?

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The radical left and the thousands of woke gender studies PHD majors can't even answer the question in their own field consistency with years to answer; what is a woman?

But that's ok; because this suburban Yankee math major from exurban NYC (myself) answered the question by himself in a few days:


Suburbs, STEM, the Second Amendment, and the First Amendment before SJWs, Snowflakes, and San Fransisco!
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The radical left and the thousands of woke gender studies PHD majors can't even answer the question in their own field consistency with years to answer; what is a woman?
That's because biology is not the either/or that simpletons like yourself seem to think. Plus definitions are invented by people, and no one person has a monopoly on what words mean.

It doesn't take much to realize all of this, just a willingness to understand reality for what it is.
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That's because biology is not the either/or that simpletons like yourself seem to think. 
That was unwarranted.
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I would say that by this point, with gender and science being part of the national dialog for at least a year now and a prominent topic on this site, anyone who still pretends gender and/or sex is a simple one or the other proposition with no reasonable room for question either suffers from a diagnosable cognitive deficiency or is being disingenuous.

If it's the former then I apologize to the OP. If it's the latter then it is certainly warranted.
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The left does not accept that definition.
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That's because biology is not the either/or that simpletons like yourself seem to think. Plus definitions are invented by people, and no one person has a monopoly on what words mean.
Did you read the rest of the OP?  Or are you too simpleton to do that?
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I would say that by this point, with gender and science being part of the national dialog for at least a year now and a prominent topic on this site, anyone who still pretends gender and/or sex is a simple one or the other proposition with no reasonable room for question either suffers from a diagnosable cognitive deficiency or is being disingenuous.
In other words, if they agree with the conservatives on transgenderism (about 60% of the population according to Pew), then they either suffer from a diagnosable cognitive deficiency or is being disingenuous by your logic.

It's the standard conservative position on transgenderism that you are calling stupid.

But it's what you can expect from a hardcore left triber.
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What Melania looks like?
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The DSM  also states Gender Dysphoria as a problem. Meaning there can only be one normal gender.

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Plenty of women don't look like Melania and plenty of men do.  Arnold S*****ne**er has a similar skin tone to Melania; Cadence Owens does not.

But drag queens (who are cisgender men) look like women.  Both the Matt Walsh fans and the Samantha Lux fans believe cisgender male drag queens are men.
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It's the standard conservative position on transgenderism that you are calling stupid.
Correct, because it is.

As your OP  states, the "woke left" "can't even" define a woman "consistently" - implying very clearly that you think there's something wrong with that and worthy of calling out.

Let's set aside for a moment that the King of "you're just believing what your tribe tells you to believe" suddenly thinks it's a problem for a large political group to have widespread disagreement on the specifics of an issue... The position expressed here is that the term "woman" should be expected to have only one clear and consistent definition across the board, which defies everything we know about the limits of biology.

We know that there are plenty of real world examples where individuals are born with all kinds of genetic abnormalities that make sex difficult to determine. We must also take into account that gender ) which is inherently subjective) is a major part of this discission as that is where this issue became political in the first place. But even worse when taking a step back is the insinuation that words have some sort of inherent meaning imposed onto us by some external authority. None of this reflects real life.
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Egg producer.
though some women don’t intrinsically produce eggs, uterus transplants are a thing now.
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back when i was a kid, a pussy and breasts made ya a woman and a dick and balls made ya a man. and i'd say that's generally still the case. 
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Tru dat.
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In most cases, yes.

However, exceptions exist which make such definition kinda discriminatory, since it would be used against those exceptions.

Also, people get defensive for no reason. Trans people dont demand anything from anyone other than to stop bullying and misgendering them.

It seems like a small, simple demand which doesnt even require any effort to be respected.
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It's the standard conservative position on transgenderism that you are calling stupid.
Correct, because it is.
Do you believe every conservative position is stupid?  Because if so, then you are against the idea merely because it's conservative, so the left wing would be your tribe.  At that point, convincing you to agree with my position is like someone who was born in NYC (and is a Yankees fan) trying to convince someone born in Boston (who is a Red Sox fan) to become a Yankee fan even though they were born in Boston, when if the NYC person was born in Boston, they would end up doing the same thing.

If the right was the first group to accept the belief that transwomen are real women, the left would call transgenderism a conspiracy theory.  If the left were the first to oppose vacciene mandates, citing the claim that they disproportionally effect people of color, then the right would be claiming it's your patriotic duty to get the American shot.

As your OP  states, the "woke left" "can't even" define a woman "consistently" - implying very clearly that you think there's something wrong with that and worthy of calling out.
In the spreadsheet I linked, I actually defined what a woman is in a way the left and right might agree too.  But you don't point that out because you are just doing your narraitve.

Let's set aside for a moment that the King of "you're just believing what your tribe tells you to believe" suddenly thinks it's a problem for a large political group to have widespread disagreement on the specifics of an issue
I'm generalizing.  The vast majority of trans activists are going to be left wing on issues unrelated to transgenderism just because the left pre selected the issues for them, but it's a generalization.


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i agree that we should try to use their pronouns and such. but with that said, i've known trans people and when it become a real life practical thing, it can be super hard to keep their pronouns straight. they usually dont even mind if you sincerely are trying. 
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Do you believe every conservative position is stupid?
No, I believe this position is stupid. And if you ask me about various conservative positions I'm going to tell you that some I find stupid, some I find just wrong, some I just see differently, and few I may even agree with. It is because I tend to see things this way that I identify as a liberal. Not the other way around. Why that's so difficult for you to accept I have no idea.

If the right was the first group to accept the belief that transwomen are real women, the left would call transgenderism a conspiracy theory.
No, they wouldn't. You're just making shit up with absolutely no basis and going against the very notion of conservatism. Conservatism comes from the word "conserve", which is an ideal centered around keeping things the way they have always been or adhering to tradition. Transgenderism is entirely new to society and bucks all traditional concepts of gender, romantic relationships, and family. It is by definition the opposite of a conservative position, so asserting that the left would run away from it if the right embraced it is absurd.

If the left were the first to oppose vacciene mandates, citing the claim that they disproportionally effect people of color, then the right would be claiming it's your patriotic duty to get the American shot.
I'm sure many MAGA cultists would because they don't seem to hold any core values other than supporting Trump but anti-vaxerism has always been prominent on the left, particularly in the black community for historical reasons and that played itself out through COVID, yet it's the right who primarily ended up there anyway.

In the spreadsheet I linked, I actually defined what a woman is in a way the left and right might agree too.  But you don't point that out because you are just doing your narraitve.
Your personal definition is irrelevant to the point you made which I originally responded to and every argument I've made in this thread.

I'm generalizing.  The vast majority of trans activists are going to be left wing on issues unrelated to transgenderism just because the left pre selected the issues for them, but it's a generalization.
Yet another unfalsifiable assertion ignoring any concept of how causality is determined. Your adherence to this position is at religious devotee levels.
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And if you ask me about various conservative positions I'm going to tell you that some I find stupid, some I find just wrong, some I just see differently, and few I may even agree with.
What conservative belief(s) do you have?

Here are a bunch of issues:

  1. San Francisco style Reparations
  2. Citizens united
  3. First past the post
  4. Higher taxes on the wealthy
  5. Additional gun control
  6. Climate change alarmism
  7. Corporate welfare
  8. 2020 election
  9. AI
  10. Income tax
  11. Relocating peaceful (undocumented/illegal) immigrants(to either their home country or to blue counties).
  12. Big tech censorship
  13. Medicare for all
  14. Affirmitive action
  15. Believe women, good or bad?
  16. Death penalty for felonies
  17. Abortion for consensual sex
  18. Felons voting(assuming you back incarceration)
  19. Homeschooling
  20. Drag queens for children
  21. Teacher salary raises
  22. Increase Military spending
  23. Circumsising infants
  24. Energy
  25. Free college
  26. Electoral college
  27. Ye West
  28. Ukraine-Russia Conflict
  29. Gay marriage
  30. Gas Sales Tax
  31. Churches
  32. Getting fired for being LGBT
  33. Getting fired for being unvaccinated
  34. Refusing service to LGBT customers
  35. Hard vacciene mandate (for customers)
  36. Censorship for far left (flag burners)
  37. Censorship for far right (white supremests)
  38. Porn
  39. GMOs
  40. Israel-Palestine conflict
  41. PR statehood
  42. DC statehood
  43. CRT
  44. Crypto Currency
  45. Birth control
  46. Minimum wage
  47. Individual welfare
  48. Oil nationalization
  49. Veganism
  50. Hitler
  51. Tariffs
  52. Gender transitioning for minors
  53. Sex
  54. Police body cameras
  55. Yemen-Saudi Arabia conflict
  56. Furries
  57. Subsidize renewable energy
  58. Planned parenthood funding
  59. Should employers be required to provide free birth control?
  60. Enviornmental regulations
  61. LGBT couples adopting
  62. Tough on weed
  63. Tough on vape
  64. Tough on Nicotine
  65. Voting
  66. Defund the police
  67. Defunding the FBI
  68. Adultury
  69. Qualified immunity support
  70. Constitutional carry
  71. Should prostitution be legal(unmarried people)?
  72. National DNA database
  73. Patriot Act
  74. Metric system
  75. Hyde Amendment
  76. Wage gap
  77. Abortion for rape victims. Nationwide
  78. Nationwide abortion ban
  79. Cultural Appropriation
  80. Transgenderism
  81. Trans people competing in women's sports
  82. Confederate flag/What caused the civil war?
  83. Creationism
  84. Belief in God
Conservatism comes from the word "conserve", which is an ideal centered around keeping things the way they have always been or adhering to tradition. 
Some traditions conservatives do not want to support:
  1. Roe V Wade
  2. The progressive income tax
  3. Trump is not a traditional president

The GOP isn't consistent either with being pro status quo.
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What is a woman?

Seriously!  Do you have to ask?  Imho anyone  that even has to ask such a  question needs some serious brain work.
Are you a transgender?


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A woman has a vagina, a womb for giving birth to children, one more rib than a man and XX chromosomes as the norm. 
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Thats really just your assumption 🙂
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A woman has [.................................................... one more rib than a man ...

That's news to me. This seems to have sprang from the creation story of the biblical Eve .  There is absolutely no evidence that a Woman(those ones  with wombs, vaginas and fallopian tubes)  has one extra rib to a man....There is of course always the possibility of a deformity.   But then this may apply to both Men and Women, those ones  with wombs, vaginas and fallopian tubes.
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There’s a commonly held falsehood that men have one less rib than women. This myth may have its roots in the Bible and the creation story about Eve being made from one of Adam’s ribs.
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Even if Bible's story was correct, conclusion would not follow.

Adam losing a rib does not mean his male children would be born with one less rib.

In fact, man losing one part of body almost never translates to his children later being born without that same part.
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Are you a transgender?
No.

What is a woman?

Seriously!  Do you have to ask? 
Yes.  The definition used to be based on chromosomes.  But people want to change the definition to something that isn't consistent (like, "Whoever identifies as a woman").  If I identify as a couch, that doesn't make me a couch.

So the identitarian definition is not a good definition.
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Its true its a myth, I just want people who don't know what a woman is to be even more confused about what a woman is.
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What conservative belief(s) do you have?
Can't think of very many. I tend to be more conservative when it comes to the balance between privacy and security. I am generally fine with government technology that allows them to "spy" on us to a reasonable extent provided it makes us safer.

Some traditions conservatives do not want to support:
  1. Roe V Wade
  2. The progressive income tax
  3. Trump is not a traditional president

The GOP isn't consistent either with being pro status quo.
You're confusing ideology and political party.