Why can't I delete stuff?

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  • Plisken
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    Will mods delete my stuff if I ask?  There's only a few minutes before crossing over to the next relm in eternal glory. What's up with that?

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    Will mods delete my stuff if I ask?
    Sometimes. Usually not.

    Giving users more control over their own content and allowing us to delete votes, posts, etc, is one of the things I've specifically been asking for. 

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    After the 15 minute period, yeah, they're fixed for good.

    A limitless deletion option might be a good way for people to provoke trouble and then erase the evidence. Other than that, I don't see why not.
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    I've thought about that as well, might be best the way it is if people just think a bit about what they say.  
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    Now Plisk. We both know that's not possible within the confines of reality.
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    The risk that I see is that mods might be overly inundated with such requests, one reason Max did not allow username changes on DDO. That being said, I am willing to delete threads (whole threads, not posts) upon request, so long as I am free to reveal that the request was why I deleted the thread and so long as I have time to review any reported content in those threads before its deletion.

    I further support the ability of users to delete their own content so long as some record of that remains for mods to examine. Users should not be able to irrecoverably delete incriminating content, as this would obviously hamper moderation's ability to enforce the COC.
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    What about revealing information? I remember a mafia game where an irl friend used my real name, and I asked Max to remove my name from the post.


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    Of course. Unwanted doxxing info is something I'd remove. But that's more of a COC issue than a courtesy.
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    Might be ideal to have a hidden archive for deleted threads.
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    How can they delete their content while leaving a record that can be examined?
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    Virt say's it's something called shadow banning, I think. Basically, mods can still view cached original versions, and can see all the edits, but to everyone else, it appears deleted.

    I am not sure how much storage the site has for stuff like that, so maybe the cached info disappears after 3 months stored or something like that.
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    Interesting. Mods would appear to be banning people for something the public cannot see.
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    True, but that would be the case if I deleted a doxxing post and subsequently banned someone on the basis of it.
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    But presumably not in the case of personal attacks and offensive or inflammatory behavior, which are much more common than doxxing and constitute the majority of offenses that get banned.
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    True. I probably wouldn't take action against deleted or edited posts unless they were severe violations (including severe personal attacks) or unless that tactic became a habitual means for a particular user to dodge moderation. But I also think there should be a time limit on deletion, as there is with editing.
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    The place used to let us edit posts but they are going to start using things for modding and if you can change a post they can't hold it against you. 
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